French boxers during the Napoleonic era?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Jem Belcher was nicknamed Napoleon of the Ring, and that got me thinking about if pugilism\boxing was relevant in France during this time. Was it relevant? If so, was Napoleon big on it?
     
  2. BCS8

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    Nice topic of which I know 0 about
     
  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    I don’t think a person like Napoleon would even think about boxing of his era - I think boxing was small back then, not what it is today and if it was what it was today then I think he’d watch and enjoy like most people but a man who spear heads mass warfare wouldn’t really blink at fist fighting in a meaningful way.
     
  4. McGrain

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    They had their own **** going on. I can't remember what it was called but it's coined as French Boxing. Being French, it included kicking. It made an early modern Olympics.
     
  5. Stevie G

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    Food for thought. Years before the Thrilla in Manila or Brawl In Montreal we could have had 'Hulabaloo in Waterloo'
     
  6. McGrain

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  7. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    You’re probably thinking of savate.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    ohhh savate
     
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  9. BCS8

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    should have read through to the end before posting :p
     
  10. The Fighting Yoda

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    I think it's an interesting question and I don't know it.

    Just a side note about boxing in Germany:
    Boxing was banned in Germany until 1918. But even before that date there was a little unofficial boxing and even championships in the backyards. Nonetheless, it was just a fringe phenomenon.
    After WW1, German prisoners brought this sport from England to Germany. The first German amateur boxing championship was held in 1920. Max Schmeling was also lucky to live in a big city like Hamburg where there were opportunities to box.

    This has nothing to do with the French Empire. It's the neighboring country though + France and England were enemies in the Napoleonic Wars. Maybe boxing was banned in France as well or the opportunities to box respectively the structures were hardly available. But that's just speculation.
     
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  11. SolomonDeedes

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    I don't think there was any boxing in France that far back. Savate was all about the kicks, with the hands only used for defensive purposes. There was a Frenchman in the 1830s who introduced to savate some of the punching techniques he'd seen used by British boxers, but that's obviously well after Napoleon's time.
     
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  12. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Another fun fact: boxing was very big amongst the Russian aristocracy during the Russian Empire, so much so that the Bolsheviks actually banned professional boxing due to it being a 'bourgeois'. This is also likely why almost every communist country banned professional boxing as well
     
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  13. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Napoleon Dynamite was pretty good. Vote for Pedro.
     
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  14. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    French boxing is Savate

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  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What about Chinese boxers during the Ming Dynasty?
     
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