Frequent comment.."Pacquiao fought oscar at 147 so he should fight the welters there"

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Mosely willing to come down to 143lbs to meet Pacquiao

It's on there

And it's ****ing disgusting

 

This is the reason everyone knows Pacs win over DLH wasnt that impressive at 147. Sure I think Pac can whoop everyone at 140 he has a good chance and should stay at that weight but the opposition at 147 is much greater and the size differance is clear. People dont admit that the DLH that fought May wasnt the same that fought Pac however the Hatton was imo. In sense I still think Pac should not fight welters I think Floyd should.

 

bradley and valero...i've been saying it all along.

 

I don't buy that Pacquiao is a genuine 147 power hitter. Main thing is that he is extremelly active physically, he combines fast footwork and flashy straight and curved punching and he measures the distance better than anyone - fast thinking and great reflexes - but he's 5'6 1/2'' tall for Chrissake. He has been in there with three 130 plus pounders and even having performed in spectacular fashion and style, he can't really goe toe to toe, tit 4 tat with a heavy loading welter who can antecipate and protect himself. I say Berto, Mosley, Floyd, Shane ( who fought Margo) and Cotto at his best, they all overwhelm Pac. The simple question is that pac calls the shots and they may have to go down where he feels best ( and they feel worst).

 

If he wants to be a welterweight champion, then obviously he would have to fight at welterweight.

On the other hand, if he wants simply to beat Mosley, or Mayweather, or Cotto, then there's no reason why the fight would have to be at 147 simply because that happens to be a recognised weight limit. You might as easily say if they 'want' to fight Pacquaio then they should go to 140. A more rational approach would be for the fight to be somewhere in between.

 

This is taking it too far.

Oscar was at a much bigger disadvantage moving down than Manny was moving up. Coming back down to 147 at his age obviously took something out of him physically, while all Manny really sacrificed was some handspeed. It wasn't the only reason Oscar lost, the way some believe, but it was a factor.

Mosley and Cotto have held legitimate belts at 147 and are established in the weight class. Contrary to what Freddie Roach apparently believes now, 143 is NOT a historical weight class. Those four pounds he wants the top dogs to drop are very, very important. They increase Pacquiao's chances dramatically.

IMO, Pacquiao severly reduces the historical significance of these fights if they all happen below 147. He may win them, but they will mean much less.

There is nothing stopping him from weighing whatever the hell he wants on the day of the weigh in either. If he believes he's faster at 140-145, then that's what he could come in at. He's going to be the smaller man in the ring however they do it.

 

Cotto and Mosely both said from their mouths that they are willing to fight Pacman at a catchweight.

So enough with this Pacman needs to fight at 147 garbage, Cotto and Mosely are the ones who want the fight they should move down.

 

then 143.5 should be the MINIMUM catch weight then not 142. 142 is a benefit to Manny and Manny only.

Have some balls and fight @ 147 like he has ALREADY done.

 

Come on, guys. Manny was a super featherweight for pete's sake.

 

It's not just about titles. Mosley and Cotto probably can't make 143 healthily. Sh*t, Manny shouldn't even be an underdog against Cotto if Cotto has to weigh-in a pound under 147. He'll be a corpse and his chin will be shaky again.

Shane is also 37 freaking years old. Say whatever you want about being a natural lightweight, it is extremely dangerous for him at this age to drop even more weight.

Make them weigh in at 147, while Pacquiao won't have to even cut weight hardly (yes, this in itself is an advantage) and let's see who the better fighter really is.

 

Why?:think Floyd never asked for catch-weights at WW even though he never weighs over 150 lbs!

 

Night of the fight, he weighed 148 against Hatton.

Shane and Cotto will be 160 or less on fight night.

And bottom line, being smaller against both Hatton and Oscar obviously didn't make a damn bit of difference. I don't see why people are sh*tting their pants over Cotto and Mosley, especially not Cotto.

Either he gets in there and is the better man, or he isn't. He's above silly handicaps now.