Fres Oquendo vs. James Toney

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  1. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Toney is -275 on sportsbook.

    Oquendo is +215 on sportsbook.




    Is there a good value bet on this fight for tommorow?
     
  2. TheSweetScience

    TheSweetScience Linares the next ATG!!! Full Member

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    not really. Toney wins this one for sure....If your willing to eat the juice then might as well unload
     
  3. Ilesey

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    At 275 Toney's mobility will be non existant. Oquendo is as lean as ever. :rasta
     
  4. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Doesn't the line seem fishy?



    I feel like the books know something about Toney's motivation/conditioning for this fight.....Anybody else feel the same way?
     
  5. ky7le

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    -275 is a betting line not his weight.
    :patsch
     
  6. Ilesey

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    You don't say.

    Clown. :blood
     
  7. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Toney is and was good but he also moved up and down in weight so much and fought the contenders and sort of top guys, who were decent, but not that great. He did this so much that he never really made it to the cream of the crop in many divisions so he could hold the title for years and prove once and for all that he was great. He was content with fighting contenders , sometimes I thought he just wanted to rack up wins and get to 100 wins without being a real champ and really testing himself as the champ. He likes being a fighter, but not really being champ and having to be disciplined. Almost like he wants to prove people wrong when he looks so bad in one fight that they write him off, so he can come back and gets in shape so he can say. Look see!! What do you guys know!! Sort of like that motivates him to get in shape to prove people wrong. But I do not think he wants to be a champ where he would have to be in shape all the time, since then he might disappoint like he knows he would. I do not think he is an ATG. I think he is Hall of Fame, but his inconsistency does not match him well with the all time greats who have fought. Funny thing is I think a guy like Virgil Hill who was not as good as Toney is skills, made up for it in discipline and mindset. I think Hill is a greater fighter. And Roy Jones was much greater than James. Roy put himself in a division and stayed there even though Roy and Virgil didn't really take big chances, they risked thier legacy by staying at light heavyweight. There is something to be said for staying champ for years.
     
  8. MAG1965

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    To be honest, if James looked great in his fight tonight and then won the title somehow with the Klitchkos, he might come in his next fight at 275 just so he could lose and have an excuse.
     
  9. RUSKULL

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    I'm actually looking forward to this fight myself.