Fritz Sdunek on Vitali vs Foreman, Tyson, Ali

No I dont agree not even close. Hes not had to have the same type of challenges most top ten greats have had. We've only seen him in one of those situations against a fighter far past his prime, and while he showed heart and guts he didnt have the skills to make it through. Fighters like Tyson Holyfield Bowe Foreman, etc all had the capacity to bring the same type of fight that Lennox Lewis did, only better in my opinion, so it acts as a barometer to me as to how he would have failed against more capable fighters. The only thing the Klitschko dominance shows me is the complete lack of the talent in the heavyweight division, and a beating a former LH who is really not that great proved nothing!

 

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Before you disagree with Sdunek, who knows more about boxing? Fritz Sdunek... or YOU?? I know he knows more than me so I'll have to agree with him on this one :deal

 

Yeah and Emanuel Steward knows more than Sdunek and he says the same **** about Lennox Lewis. No father has an ugly child, you ever heard that sang? Sure he says Klitschko would beat everyone, so he must be right. ****ing joke.

 

Bill Cayton said tyson is the second greatest heavyweight ever.

Opinions are like a$$holes, everyones got one.

 

I personally don't think that Vitali would beat the likes of Ali, Louis or Holmes but I do think he would be a difficult opponent nevertheless. For a fighter his size he has good skills and a chin to back those skills. His decent ability plus his size and durability make him a handful for anyone. It would be tough for a small fighter to get close enough to do any consistent significant damage to him. It would take a bigger fast fighter with a reach who could get to him regularly ala Ali and Holmes to beat him or a power puncher/boxer like Louis who could rattle him bigtime with a 2 or 3 punch salvo and not let him off the hook when he's hurt. Relatively speaking alot of the smaller HW's of the past were overall better fighters from a technical point of view. But a fighter the size of Vitali combined with his good, though not great ability would pose some serious problems as they would have to get inside consistently to win. Anyone here agree?

 

Anyone in the history of the game that decided to try and box with Vitali would have a difficult time, just because of his physical attributes. Hes a tall guy that fights taller. He leans back and forth and uses his height very well. Thats the where it ends though. Vitali is not a good counterpuncher, his power is not great, and he cant fight on the inside. These fighters today cant exploit those kind of problems. All of them stay back and try and box with him. Rather than take a beating from the outside, Adamek should have been roughing Vitali up, banging his body and staying as close as possible. He probably would have still lost, but its the only way you can beat the guy. I dont understand how any trainer could not see that, yet fighter after fight, you have guys that just sit back and try and box. Thats just proof they are not equipped to do it.

The greats could do it. Lets face it, once Lewis closed the gap on Vitali he didnt look so hot and looked pretty ordinary. So easier said then done, but I would rather get knocked out trying a gameplan thaat I actually had a chance winning with then laying back and getting pummeled over the course of a fight. Move your head, bang to the body punch in combination, rough, fight. Thats how you beat Vitali. Guys like Holmes, Ali and Tyson with their speed and timing would offset alot of Vitalis ability to maintain that distance as well. Bowe, Foreman, they would close the gap and fight him inside. Were talking totally different kind of fights.

 

yeh at least adamek could of slipped inside vitalis jab and ****ed up his gut a nd ribs, he cant fight going back but fighters too scared of his right hand, thats why tyson inside would be to much for vitali, much more elusive than adamek was anyway

 

Yes,the Klitscko brothers are pretty good,but the best of a bad lot. Can't yet be compared with the legendary boxers of yesteryear.

 

Vitali would have big problems against men of comparable height and reach, not to mention greater speed. He is a very inviting target, but with his height he can easily make smaller opponents or clumsy opponents with size miss. As his trainer says, he is unorthodox and very intelligent, the style he has takes the most advantage out of his height. However this same style would leave him vulnerable against better class opponents, since he tends to lean away from punches, back up straight and keep his hands around his waist, or his knees as the HBO commentary put it.

Believe it or not, considering how well Vitali has shut out most opponents, but Lewis landed at an alarming 50% rate with his power punches, which were mainly sloppy haymakers. That is not an indication of great defense, but a great chin. If it were a younger Lewis though, one has to wonder what kind of damage he would have done.

 

Which Greats have comparable height? Carnera and Willard?

 

Lewis, Bowe, Wladimir. I'm not saying you have to be as tall as he is. Ali and Holmes have comparable reach and greater speed.

 

hes also vitali's manager,do you think he may be a little bias?

 

I get pretty sick of the Klitshcko's sore loser 'I only even lost a fight by injury' BS - no you lost 2 fights by getting your ass kicked, in 1 you got your face torn off and in another you quite because you were taking a beating. Ofcourse he also lied about Pele Reid knocking him out and Maskeev too

Top10 - no maybe he could of been, but his resume is just lacking so much

 

Vitali would have beaten Ali in his own game , same would Wlad and Lennox.
1 have to consider him a favorite vs Tyson just due 2 size - Vitali is bigger than Douglas & Holyfield and if Tyson couldn't stop Mitch Green , Tony Tucker , James Smith and even James Tillis and Donovan Duddock , why would he have ever stopped Vitali ?
vs Foreman IDK