Fritz Sdunek on Vitali vs Foreman, Tyson, Ali

Sanders was not 1 of d toughest , but d same holds 4 Liston.
If supermiddle Marty Marshall broke Liston's jaw , Sanders would have shattered it 2 3 pieces.

He went down from a tyson punch after d first round which would more possibly would have missed him had it only been during d round.
but even then he still wasn't KOd by it , just by d fall which caused d damage 2 his knee.

I forgot his wins over Ellis and a crippled back Patterson (first fight) were legit as far as I know so far . Yes , I watched them but it will probably take time till I do it again. In d Patterson rematch , Floyd was 37.

Yes. In Ali's own game , remember Sir Henry Cooper , whom must have been a monsterous puncher Vitali could never imagine 2 hit as hard as.

Liston retired due 2 dislocated shoulder , then in d rematch he threw d fite so his partners from d underworld will win their bet.

Foreman was exhausted both by the heat , but even more by Ali's use of the loosened ropes which Dundee took care of .
Those ropes helped Ali at both avoiding some and then absorbing some of George's punches until George punched himself out in the severe heat.
Ali could never compete with Foreman under legit circumstances and hence a rematch never occurred.

So maybe u should stop mocking Joe Hipp ?
also , while Cooper was convincingly stopped by other fighters , I only meant that Cooper could never be competent against fully sized heavyweights with reasonable skills.

He did not lose to Wladimir Klitschko , Tommy Morison and Jorge Luis Gonzales , did he ?

D claim was about Puritty , I would not have meant that Vitali lasted 12 with Sanders , as I know how it ended ..
maybe read my post u quoted again , insterad of me quoting/repeating myself ?

did u check d duration of those fights ? their locations ? and then d quality of opposition in some of them fites ? of course you didn't.

Well , I meant d biggest turn thread which somehow passed from here.
Thank u 4 having me reply 2 your stupid post just so u won't think i m hurt. damn , your post is garbage. But u do feel better now , right ?

 

Im having a debate with a certain person on the thread about Vitalis trainers views on his chances against Ali, its on here somwehere.

Can people peopel free to read this thread and tell me whether im in the wrong or the other person is talking sh*t. My opinion is of the latter

 

it's frank. just ignore.

 

H2H Vitali is a top ten! No way you are gonna tell me Frazier and Marciano was gonna topple him!

He reminds me alot of your foreman only with a lot more skill! Yes Young Foreman was overrated. How many title defenses did he have again?

and besides Frazier what could the young foreman say he did that made him on ali's level?

 

:huh he stopped ruddock twice

 

Foreman just destroyed the men that beat Ali : Frazier , Norton & Chuvalo .
He would have done d same with Doug Jones & Henry Cooper if given d opportunity , it is actually good that he didn't get these opportunities ..
Foreman > Ali .
What is underrated is d story behind d "Rumble In The Jungle" .
The criminal acts of Angelo Dundee , Don King and who knows more .
I am convinced Ali was informed about the situation inside the ring come 1974 ..

 

Well even on paper he stopped Ruddock only once .
But what about all the names that I mentioned .
He stopped Ruddock ! great !! you could also say that he stopped Berbick , Spinks , Holmes , Tubbs , Bruno , Seldon.
Yes , Tyson was a great foulist/puncher , but you completely did not understand my post ..

 

Nobody in the history of HW boxing beats Vitali unless his body fails him or he gets cut.

 

I wouldn't have gone that far , prime Foreman , McCall & Valuev had a realistic chance if u ask me , not that Vitali wouldn't have had his own chance against them .
And Vitali's body failed him vs Byrd because Byrd made him punch his own shoulder out which is why prime Byrd always gets a chance vs prime Vitali .