Froch admits to injecting stuff into hands previously!!!!ad

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  1. TonyD407

    TonyD407 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    froch tests positive for 'PG tips'
     
  2. TonyD407

    TonyD407 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    is coffee a PED it gives you energy ?
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I think a general rule of thumb would be that if you are injecting it..its probably not really something that should be legit in boxing.
     
  4. icemax

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    Regardless of what you say, its exactly the same as football, rugby or athletics...an injection in an athletes knee helps him to run, whats the difference? BTW, cortisone doesn't numb anything, it reduces swelling
     
  5. They're not painkillers though, right? They're anesthetics?

    As someone else said, try having your wisdom teeth removed with painkillers instead of anesthetic!

    Also, I don't see how it can come round and bite him on the arse. He's not Floyd Mayweather. He's not made any stance on PEDs. He's not making his opponents take extra testing. I just don't see how he can get tripped up by this.
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Cortisone is far from the only substance used as has been well documented recently.

    The difference is that this is a fighting sport so pain is absolutely relevant. Pain and inflicting damage is what boxing is about, why else punch a guy? You shouldn't be able to mask pains and aches, its mano y mano from the first bell and everything should be even. I mean the fighter that doesn't have painkillers could actually break his hand in the fight and not have the same advantage of having had a painkiller.

    Besides its pretty much irrelevant what those ***s do, this is boxing anyway, what they do in football or athletics is up to them.
     
  7. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Surely makes it even worse...
     
  8. superfly98

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    :lol::lol: Good one
     
  9. HairyHighlander

    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    How not comparable to footballers ?

    Fighters use ther hands, footballers there feet.....usually.

    Football is still in a sense combat, a desire to win and theres a goal, difference being you have people around you doing th same against the same amount challenging you.


    To inflict damage.......the inflicting on the whole is to come out on top.

    To say, ban it from a combat sport but not a team competitive sport is ridiculous.

    Numbing hands, same goes for shins, no ?


    You have seen how they roll.
     
  10. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I don't think that anyone numbs anything...localised pain relief and swelling reduction maybe, but not numbing
     
  11. HairyHighlander

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    Totally failed.

    The reference to ***s, wtf .......unlike you.

    This is a skill sport, if you forgot, pain is extra.


    NEXT
     
  12. TFFP

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    Perhaps they should ban them in football too...but I don't really care about that at this point since this is boxing we're talking about. My point is not about what they should be doing in football but that its wrong in boxing.

    Fighting is different. There should be nothing unnatural going on, man against man and thats it. That's the way I see it.

    Otherwise its very difficult to know where we're drawing lines here. I mean why not roids then? They could claim they help them back from injury too. And honestly, whats the distinction between being able to train harder because of faster recovery and being able to train and fight harder because of anasthetics and/or pain killers? Another problem as I just mentioned, what if the legit straight up guy gets injured in the fight and can't use his hand because he hasn't got the same advantage, whereas his opponent has probably damaged his hand even further but has no ill effects or at least feels them less?

    All these things just confuse what is essentially the simplest of sports.
     
  13. superfly98

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    I dont understand the whole background behind both drugs so im unsure if Im correct in saying this. But you cant compare using 'numbing' in football with Boxing. Hitting someone with a 'numb' hand you could argue is turning your hand into a possible dangerous weapon which could possible cause grievous harm to another In football and ( hope your reffering to English football) tackling someone with a numb or non numb shin would result in a red card. The key difference between the two is Football numbing is used for defence purposes...prevent injuries. IU dont see how someone numbing a part of there body in football could result in harm on another WITHOUT serious consequences on the indivdual. In boxing numbing a hand is used purposely for attacking turning your hands into possible weapon. Hope im clear...gonna go and research both a bit to see if I can get a better understanding...but if somone wants to share some info they know it'll be much appreciated
     
  14. BigEars

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    Like a lot of drugs, Cortisone becomes less effective the more you use it.
    Fighters wouldn't want to waste it on good hands, also the fact that numbing your hands increases the likelyhood you'll do damage to them.

    Wayne McCullough mentioned in his book he had some cortisone injections before fights.
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'm sure you could use it for the big fights where you're expecting a tough night and want to get the maximum out of yourself. Plus take away that doubt you might get injured and you can reduce the pain. It's definitely there for the system to be played.

    I don't know about you guys but shouldn't injuring your hands be part of a consideration for a boxer? Your hands are your tools and IMO its somewhat of a skill of assess the situation in the fight. If you're punching full power and coming up against a brick head and making little headway maybe its time to go to Plan B rather than relying on chemicals.