Froch beat Taylor because he's more skilled.

Taylor was outclassing Froch, he had the better Boxing ability. Carl Froch's hunger, heart and determination pulled him through the fight and thats what true fighters are all about, look at the shots he walked through, true true warrior.

 

You said that CF was a better counter puncher, were you watching the same fight as everyone else? Taylor counter punched Froch the whole night, that's why he was constantly nailing Froch with stiff jabs when Froch would try to come in. Froch himself admits that Taylor was beating him on counterpunches. That is one example of Taylor's skill superiority. Here is a quote from Froch himself about the counterpunching:

(from here)

Second, it's pretty much universally agreed that Taylor out-boxed Froch, and would have won had he not been knocked out in the 12th. The fact that Froch NEEDED TO KNOCK OUT TAYLOR TO WIN is proof that Taylor was winning the fight, and was the more skilled fighter. If Froch was more skilled, he'd have been ahead on the cards and would not have needed to pull out a miraculous 12th round KO in order to win. Again, here is a quote directly from Carl Froch admitting this:

Virtually anyone who knows about boxing agrees that Taylor was out-boxing Froch, and that he would have won. The commentators, including Lennox Lewis, two of the judges (and the third judge, who did have Froch ahead, every article and commentator has reffered to his scoring as being ridiculous), and every sports reporter who has covered the fight agrees with this. Everyone in this thread agrees with this. You are the only one who is not agreeing, and so far you have only made ridiculous arguments in support of your claim.

Taylor apparently has a reputation for being bad at finishing his opponents. That is probably one skill he lacks, but i will attribute his failure to finish Froch after he knocked him down in the 3rd to two things, one, he lost the first Pavlik fight because he spent too much energy trying to finish Pavlik off, so I think he was reluctant to make the same mistake. That's why he didn't go in for the kill. He was hesitant. The KO loss to Pavlik has damaged his confidence and he may never be the same fighter again, always being hesitant.

Froch has no skill and as soon as he goes up against a complete fighter he will lose. He leaves his hands down all the time and doesn't have the speed to pull that style off.

 

Nobody can "prove" that anyone is more skillful than anyone else. You're taking the minority position here. Burden's on you to convince the majority.

The real short argument - Taylor has better footwork, Taylor throws straighter punches, Taylor has a more varied punch selection, Taylor has much better defense, Taylor is more accurate, Taylor has better head movement, Froch has better body movement and a more awkward style. When Taylor wasn't tired, the skill difference was apparent. When Taylor got tired, Froch was able to take advantage, because Taylor's brain forgets to use those skills when he's not at 100%. I can't think of too many areas where Froch is more skilled than Taylor.

 

Froch has better skill? Not to sure about that,he does have better conditioning,it wasnt until Taylor got tired that Froch started landing clean punches,after Taylor didnt have his guard up like he did most the fight... Taylor is not the best finisher though,Froch had that attribute more than Taylor..

 

Axe man has been owned on this thread!! Ive never seen a poster get owned so much in their own threads..damn shame!

 

Ya -- and he was 1 point down and even on the rounds. Froch was getting his ears boxed off.

 

And yet another damn fine post from Brickhaus:deal

 

Three of the biggest differences are in the ability to finish a fighter, survival skills, and pacing over a 12 round fight. When you throw out things like "when Taylor wasn't tired", you're cutting down the picture of the whole fight as it happened into the neat little chunk where Taylor was doing well and ignoring that it was Taylor's lack of skills in those areas that helped allow Froch to win the fight.

Most of what else you said, I agree with- in the sense of "gym skills", Taylor's got the edge. It seems more that I have a broader definition of what overall "skill" is than anything else. :thumbsup

 

I'm not questioning Taylors skills,but id like to throw a spanner in the works.If Taylor was the more skilfull of the two WHY did he fight the way he did ? numerous boxing writers said Froch would probably lose the first third of the fight and get stronger towards the end,possibly even stopping Taylor by KO or TKO why didn't Taylor read the script and adjust his fight plan ? Taylor has good "textbook" boxing skills,but is very amatuerish mentally,he knows his stamina is questionable so why did he force the action at the start of the fight knowing he would probably gas out in the later rounds ? Why couldn't he use his skills to pace himself ? why couldn't he use his skill to win the fight and conserve energy ?

 

Hey got tired and his stamina was always an issue. In almost all of his higher profile fights Taylor ended up slowing after the 6th round. JT starts off well but fades. That is fact.