Froch believes Bivol is part of the reason Ward retired

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont think Rodriguez was a mandatory?
    I dont think Ward faced any mandatories

    https://www.*******.com/forums/showthread.php?t=657099
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Undefeated Kessler was 39-0 and a unified world champ who had also defended away. Thats hardly inexperienced.
    I dont disagree that Kessler scored what could be called his best win after losing to Ward, but that doesnt mean he wasnt faded and having vision problems.
    I think Froch had already been exposed quite a bit at that time and think the Kessler of a few years earlier would have been far more convincing and think it would have been more similar to Kessler/Andrade type of fight.
    G Foreman was faded when he beat M Moorer. It was a good win but I think prime Foreman would have been more convincing
     
  3. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "honestly - the first time your hero cowardzaghe was mentioned by me in months"
    You know that's not true, only the other day you were slating Calzaghe to me on this thread...yes obsessed suits you...poor little chap

    here you are ...
    Obsessed by the great 46-0 Welsh Dragon... it a fact...
     
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  4. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Waitrose sir ????
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    :loel::meparto:
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Has he admitted something?
     
  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your right I retract that statement bro, however Rodriguez was the WBC no.1, unbeaten and HBO was paying 3 million for the fight so that is a credible defence imo.
     
  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He can’t be faded with vision problems that bad if he beat an undefeated Carl Froch.

    Who did Kessler beat before the Calzaghe fight? Andrade lol come on man that guy had beaten no one of note.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wasnt knocking it.
    Its a shame Rodriguez could no longer get down to SMW
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have watched SMW for years.
    Now Froch after that fight had massive struggles with faded, boiled down G Johnson who after losing to Froch was arguably Butes big win. This is Johnson who was never a top SMW and lost more than he won. Consider S Ottke over 10 years previously had beaten prime SMW G Johnson far clearer and easier than Froch.
    Kessler had noted eye problems. He still beat Froch with them, but think the fresher more prime version would have had an easier time.
    Froch had been exposed before then. He was behind to many against Taylor, looked fortunate to many against Dirrell and some felt to Pascal. None of those fighters were top SMWs and had looked fortunate to some against Adamu previously.
     
  11. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean before the Ward fight or after? Because personally I think he could of made weight just he didn’t have enough belief in himself in regards of wining so he just didn’t bother to push himself to squeeze off the extra two pounds.
     
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  12. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe he could of but I could contend maybe taking on Calzaghe would of given Kessler the much need big fight experienced that pipped him over the edge coz it was a close fight. See with hypothetical I could make a case for Ward having fought the best version of Kessler.
     
  13. Phelps-Brady

    Phelps-Brady Slicker than Raspberry ripple banned Full Member

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    Aldi :lol:
     
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  14. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Analytics plays a big part in the respect you get on this board...and your likes are so minute, one can only conclude that you get no respect as I've told you.

    The reason you respond to me instead of ignoring me is because I'm a thorn of realness in your side. I keep it G when it comes to this sport. Your incessant d*** blowing of UK fighters is in its final days. And no amount of alts can ever gain you the respect that you truly crave with boxing fans. I am glad that UK boxing is on the map, but when a moron likes you tries to change history with your lies, I become the thorn. Your turn **** stain.
     
  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    He tried to claim I hadn't understood his post - which was people need to lay off retired fighters - and when I said this was funny as he was obsessed with one he went off on one blathering something or other about 'Cowardzaghe' and the Newbridge police force.

    He really needs to see someone and I don't say that to try to denigrate him or his opinions. I genuinely believe that.
     
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