Froch deserves credit for fighting away so much.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bailey, Nov 29, 2010.


  1. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    No. Part of the agreement between Ireland and Great Britain is that someone from Northern Ireland has the right to choose their nationality. Guess where McCloskey's nationality is. That's why McCloskey always says he is fighting at ''home'' in Donegal, because he's Irish.
     
  2. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Then substitute someone else in the example who fights out of Northern Ireland like Magee. It doesn't change my initial point, it just wasn't the world's best example.
     
  3. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    The examples you use involve two domestic, in this case British fighters, fighting each other which isn't the same thing as two fighters from different nations
     
  4. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe was Welsh and had many fights in mainland England so does he count as a road warrior aswell? ( imo he does and so does Glen)
     
  5. 12downfor10

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    cotto looks iiiiiiillllllll in your avvy dude
     
  6. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    :deal Nobody and i mean NOBODY in the world at Supermiddle has the resume and CV that Carl Froch has.

    Goes ANYWHERE...fights ANYONE...ALWAYS exciting...and he gets the job done.

    Hes number 1 without a shadow of a doubt
     
  7. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    You're proving my point.
     
  8. loughlan

    loughlan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His example makes perfect sense. Magee is Irish but technically he is from the UK. Magee's fan base in in Ireland, Froch's in England, so if Magee is fighting in Nottingham he is fighting away from home. It's the same for US fighters travelling to different states.

    Ireland and England are separate nations in case you didn't know.
     
  9. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So we all agree Calzaghe wasnt a stay at home fighter then?:p Glad thats sorted
     
  10. horst

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    I agree with you on Froch. **** knows why you have to have a dig at Glen Johnson of all people in order to make a good point about Froch, but your anti-anyone-who-isn't-from-the-UK mindset has been noted before.

    I think Froch deserves immense credit for his fight-anyone-anywhere mentality. I have massive respect for his performances on the road vs Taylor, Kessler and Abraham.

    He is everything that Joe Calzaghe was not - a true warrior who doesn't give a **** about zero-protecting and cherrypicking. :good
     
  11. Brickhaus

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    Johnson's major fights against Americans, since we're established that it's not the same if two people based out of the same country fight each other outside of where their fan bases reside:

    Allan Green - Las Vegas - neutral ground
    Yusaf Mack - Ft. Lauderdale - home
    Tavoris Cloud - St. Louis - Neutral ground
    Chad Dawson - Hartford - Dawson's backyard
    Chad Dawson - St. Petersburg - neutral ground
    Montell Griffin - Ft. Lauderdale - home
    Antonio Tarver - Memphis - neutral ground
    Antonio Tarver - Los Angeles - Neutral Ground
    Roy Jones - Memphis - away
    Julio Cesar Gonzalez - SoCal, which for all intents and purposes against a Mexican is away
    Omar Sheika - Philly - Sheika's backyard
    Syd Vanderpool - New Orleans - Vanderpool's backyard
    Eric Harding - New York, Harding's backyard
    Merqui Sosa - Chicago, neutral
    Bernard Hopkins, California, neutral


    And against foreign fighters:
    Clinton Woods - UK - away (all three times)
    Thomas Ulrich - Germany - away
    Toks Owoh - UK - away
    Silvio Branco - Italy - away
    Sven Ottke - Germany - away
    Marcelo Zimmerman - Aruba - away

    So in 20+ major fights, he's fought at home twice, and he's never faced a foreign fighter anywhere other than that fighter's backyard (unless you want to count Gonzalez, who was a Mexican fighting out of SoCal with the fight in SoCal).

    Of course, all of this will be moot when Johnson inveitably fights Froch in Nottingham.
     
  12. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its a shame the final 3 fights cant all be in a neutral country :(
     
  13. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    froch is the only one that won with out being in his backyard.cause untill that point everyone who fought in there backyard won the fight.glen did it as well, now they get to fight.and glen will lose if he cant ko froch.im not even going to count rds glens wins in that fight because it want matter.
     
  14. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed. Just a few recent examples the other way.....

    Malignaggi was not at home in Texas vs Diaz in the 1st fight.

    Allan Green was not at home vs Ward in Oakland.


    Home is where your fanbase is. And its relative, with a lot of different factors.
     
  15. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    :lol:

    I dont think it's a real life picture mate. Otherwise Cotto has a double-jointed forearm.