Froch has beaten good fighers that all had Huge flaws

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  1. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Froch has beaten good fighers that all had huge flaws:


    Jean Pascal- other than the the fact that he brawled with him that being a totally wrong game plan(same as what Froch did against Kessler) he is not a 4 rounder like Hopkins said(being a bit harsh) but he will always finish drained out of stamina.I keep remembering the Diaconu fights when I was thinking “C’mon push him, throw something this guy is dead tired he doesn’t throw anything” but Adrian Diaconu had the same stamina problems and was exhausted.

    Jermain Taylor – He was winning on points when he didn’t had anything left in his tank, and got KO’ed seconds before the end of the match.

    Andre Dirrell – Probably the most raw skilled fighter he ever faced, good speed(foot/hands) amazing athleticism he had to not one but two huge flaws: Inexperience and lack of hart(courage). Dirrell was a weak willed man, that didn’t understood you have to look like you want that title and pro boxing isn’t just scoring points but controlling the ring and making a good impression is also essential part of the game.

    Arthur Abraham- A MW who adventured himself in the wrong weight division. He is a fighter with huge power but full of holes we didn’t see until he got in there with the best.
    I blame AA trainer for the condition he found himself into, a trainer should always improve his fighters game. He only start to train his poor footwork after not being able to catch Dirrell for 11 rounds. His guard doesn’t allow him to be as offensive as he should, he doesn’t have any head-movement and body-movement. He’s a sitting target hopping for hail mary punch to save the day.

    Kessler – is the only all-rounded fighter without huge flaws in his game and the one who beat him.Coincidence? I don’t think so. But he wasn’t flawless either. Why? … because he was having accuracy problems caused by the eye or old age , and the counterpuncher became a brawler in the fight.He had what Dirrell lacked to get the victory : Heart

    Almost forgot Johnson but as himself had said: “He fades later on. To be totally honest, he faded in rounds 10,11 and 12.” And we all know Glen is a good fighter but he always lost (with the exeption of SD Tarver) to elite fighters.

    I know it will come out as hate, and as I don’t appreciate what Froch has achieved. I think Froch is a great fighter, and all those fight are still a proof of his worth. But don’t be fooled by the “names”. Forch as well as Pascal… both had the ability to out pass their condition. Froch is not easy to defeat but is also far from invincible.
     
  2. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    everyone has flaws, you need to find them and expose them.
     
  3. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Glencoffe has no outstanding flaws, he's just getting old.
     
  4. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Yeah that's why I've put the word "Huge" up there. Normal flaws aren't that decisive in winning a fights as those HUGE and Obvious "black marks" out there.
     
  5. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    the exact same could be siad of Ward's opponents.
     
  6. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Ward has demolished Kessler in his first big fight.
     
  7. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kessler's flaw is that he is vulnerable to headbuts, holding and hitting.

    So not flawless!
     
  8. AJ5

    AJ5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's only looked good against 6 round fighters (Taylor and Pascal) and targets moving straight forward without any type of upper body movement (Abraham and Johnson). Against Kessler and Dirrell who provided boxing skills and movement he looked amateurish and lost both of those fights.
     
  9. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  10. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    And Bute has beaten nobody.
     
  11. neuromancer

    neuromancer Member Full Member

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    the thread is about Froch not Bute
     
  12. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
  13. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    He is on a good run, but let's not exaggerate it, any one would think he has faced murderers row by the way it is hyped. Think froch could have done better in the dirrel and pascal fights.

    He would get beaten by both bute and andre IMO.

    Their turn to expose his flaws, bute would possibly ko him with his sharp punching and Andre "ward" school him to death.
     
  14. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    He was beating him clearly, not demolishing him, and obviously Kessler has his flaws to. And since you felt the need to pick holes in Froch's opponents, I could do the same with Mikkel and the rest of wards opponents.

    Mikkel has always been slightly one dimensional with little or body movement, and does not have great punch variety. Sakio Bika was tough, experienced and powerful but he has always been known as being lacking in the skill department. Arthur Abraham's vunerabilities had already been exposed by Froch and Dirrell at 168, and has been less than impressive at this weight anyways. Allan green was just never that good to begin with. Overall Froch has a slightly better resume and im a fan of Ward.
     
  15. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch has the best resume in the division.
    If you like, we'll sit and go through any of your favorite fighters resumes, and pick out the flaws of their opponents?

    You'll always find flaws if you look hard enough, the thing to focus on is that Froch has reached the final, despite having a very difficult road to it, and the man deserves respect, not only for winning, but for changing and adapting his own style for the better along the way.