Froch-Johnson scorecards were b.s.

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  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Fight was not ever close, Froch won big. Japanese judge should be suspended................
     
  2. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    If anything was bull****, it was the 114-114 card. Froch clearly outboxed Johnson, and for every shot Johnson would land Froch had 6 right back at him.
     
  3. teemy

    teemy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    froch mauled glen johnson
     
  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    The draw was an utter joke ..May that guy never be alowed to score a fight again !!
     
  5. Well, this fight could've been better. Good in spurts, and dull in spots. I expected Glen to be pressing the action and in Froch's chest more quickly than the way he went about it, but he still did a good job of dictating the pace of the fight. Froch didn't seem interested at all in engaging with Glen for much of the fight, which I found kind of odd. He was looking towards his corner and I have no idea why--just fight, man. I thought this would look along the lines of Froch-Pascal, but it just didn't have that exuberance or pace of that fight.

    I thought based on the wide scorecards, those two judges must not have seen Glen landing jabs and doing bodywork, because I just don't see how one can come up with a 117-111 scorecard. Glen dictated the pace, landed jabs and bodywork, and did a good job of landing his overhand right. I just didn't feel as though Froch imposed his will enough in this fight. He was coming on strong in the later rounds, but it's not like he was dominating the fight or anything. A lot of what Froch was doing, especially in the first half of the fight, was ineffective. He was backpeddaling too much and his shots simply weren't landing with much regularity.
    I had it even after 6 rounds. So, here's my scorecard:

    1. Glen--close round, but Froch did less than Glen did, and I am not scoring even rounds
    2. Glen
    3. Carl
    4. Carl
    5. Carl
    6. Glen
    7. Glen
    8. Glen
    9. Carl
    10. Glen
    11. Carl
    12. Carl

    I agree with the Japanese judge. It was a draw. But, I plan on going back and watching this fight a couple more times on YT when it gets posted. I plan on looking closely at the number of punches Carl lands in each of the rounds, and then tallying that amount for each round. I will do the same for Johnson.

    I thought Glen could've done a better job of slipping shots when he was in the pocket, sliding out, and then landing his own. I was disappointed that his output wasn't what I was used to seeing from him. He said in the post-fight interview that he had planned on boxing more, but I don't think that was the issue. I think he just needed to throw more hard shots. The right hand was there for him all night, and he should've thrown it more than he did. Because when it landed, it landed hard, and had an effect.

    As for Carl, he left a lot of gas in the gas tank. A pretty disappointing affair when he's fighting off the back foot most of the night against a 42-year-old fighter who dropped down in weight, and wasn't as active as he usually is. Froch is gonna have to fight a lot better than he did tonight if he plans on beating Andre Ward.
     
  6. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was there and could not believe the 117-112 card

    114-114 was fine

    i think 115-113 or 116-112 would have been fine

    if either guy got their hand raised or drew i would not have complained

    tremendous fight
     
  7. aka TORA

    aka TORA Full Member

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    stfu you dont know what your talking about
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    i mean he will give ward a tough fight not sure if he could pull the upset he certainly is better experienced and battle tested

    bute who is my favorite guy at the weight is untested and saying froch is not on his level is wrong

    and he is near kesslers level they had a close fight
     
  9. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    Good luck getting a fair shake in the U.S. of A's against Andre Ward when the judges are giving Glan Johnson the benefit of the doubt against you.

    Frochy is screwed. I would not be suprised if the ref lets Ward kick Froch in the nuts during the prefight instructions.
     
  10. Lynchburg

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    Froch by 3 or 4 rounds for me son... I got up at 4:30am this morning to watch this fight :D

    Lynchburg
     
  11. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets talk after he loses to Ward and that will be losing 4 out of his last 5.
     
  12. aka TORA

    aka TORA Full Member

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    what?
     
  13. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kessler = Loss
    Dirrell = Loss
    AA = Win
    GJ = Loss
    Ward = Loss

    4 out of 5. did i stutter ?
     
  14. aka TORA

    aka TORA Full Member

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    not you man
     
  15. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    116-112 is on the mark. Who judged this as a draw, lawlz? 117-111 is about believable too. But a draw? That judge needs to be canned. Even Johnson & his trainer KNEW they were behind, thats why he picked up the pressure from round 11 & 12....