Froch - Kessler Punch Stats

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  1. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How about you count the punches Froch throws in round two of the vid I posted TFFP and get back to me.:good
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    No but he's counting them in the punches thrown category. They are not punches, they're no more punches than a shot that hits the glove is landed. They are arm movements. It's almost like counting Lennox Lewis's outstretched arm as a punch.
     
  3. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    All that would do is reduce the number that Froch threw though, not the number that landed. That might mean Froch landed more and Froch had a higher connect ratio.
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    It's still an important distinction. Landing more punches in punch stats is not cast iron unless there is a large disparity. Nobody knows what the punches were like from stats unless they watch the fight.

    It gives the appearence Froch outworked him or made the fight when he really didn't in reality because half the jabs he threw were thrown with no intention to land. Which is probably why the official stats are different from these.
     
  5. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Doesn't matter what column that they go in, they don't score
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    They shouldn't be in any column, thats my point.
     
  7. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Fair enough, but it hardly matters...you would have to be an idiot to consider them anything else other than sighters.

    On a different matter, anyone know why we didn't get open scoring?, who objected?
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Not sure. I used to like open scoring but now I think its ****. GazOC convinced me.
     
  9. avidlemon

    avidlemon Boxing Addict banned

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    Open scoring ruins it for me to be honest. I would rather have the drama of now knowing.

    I guess i like surprises
     
  10. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Open scoring is ****, but its in place for WBC title fights as default and its only not carried out if the local boxing authority objects...I just wondered why the "local boxing authority" objected...no conspiracy theory, just interested
     
  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    It's not uncommon for WBC fights not be open scoring, is it? It seems to be the exception rather than the norm. I've only really seen it in Germany lately.
     
  12. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hate open scoring. It takes away all the drama of a fight and doesn't discourage **** scores.

    What happens? The audience boos so the judges change the scores to keep them happy?
     
  13. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    According to the WBC rules and regs open scoring will be in place for title fights unless local boxing authorities object...someone obviously objected and i'd just like to know why...."because its ****" is a perfectly acceptable reason
     
  14. avidlemon

    avidlemon Boxing Addict banned

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    they had it for the vitali - peters fight. I mean the scores were not a surprise, and to be honest i think hearing them affected the decision peters corner made to pull him out in the end. It just ruines the anticipation of hearing the point decisioon being announced for me, especially in a close contest
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    It's not so much that for me but the fact if a fighter has built up a lead he'll often 'cruise' to the finish line.

    I used to subscribe to the theory that fighters don't always realize they're behind and it gives them a chance to pull something out the bag but thats hindered by his opponent running and spoiling so its not really worth it when it leaves a bad taste on the spectacle.