he hasn't taken the punches to the head that froch has against the guys froch has been in against, and he sure as hell can't take a body shot like froch. andrade has better defense? what masterclass has he ever put on? he has admitted to blocking punches with his face, literally. froch has been in against slick boxers, jermain taylor was slick for about 10 and a half rounds, until froch caught up to him, and andre dirrell was slick, albeit negative in ther fight. i've seen lucian bute worn down, and i've seen froch do it, skillfully at that. I've also seen him take the shots of very good fighters, like jean pascal the light heavyweight king, so his chin is teak tough. I just don't see lucian bringing as much to the table as froch at this point in time.
Correct. Froch would be far to good, too tough,too seasoned at the highest level for the likes of Bute. Froch wouldn't get that much credit for beating Bute anyway, since people, quite rightly, would say that Bute hasn't yet beaten anyone of note, let alone beat them outside Quebec
:good bute is a talented fighter who i like to watch. but he has not been tested at elite level yet. the bigmeupbuteclub will have you beleive andrade was his BIG test when as ive said before andrade is no more than a gate keeper...:yep
A gatekeeper that still TKO'ed Stieglitz, but that's not the point... wasn't Andrade ranked top 5 SMW both times Bute beat him? Let's assume Froch beat a top 5 SMW in AA... would you honestly rate that win higher than Bute-Andrade II, considering both Froch & Bute were facing a top 5 SMW at the time?
The first time Bute fought Andrade, Andrade was #3 and in Andrade 2 he was #5. AA means zerrrro at 168.
Brinkley is irrelevant here... who should the IBF have given him to fight instead of him, considering all decent opponents were -and still are- caught up in the Super 6? Mandatories aside, don't even think about bringing Pascal or Dawson in the picture... Bute's at 168 for yrs to come, and neither LHW wants to go down to SMW - didn't see any catchweight talk though. ...you're still not disputing that Bute's KO of Andrade is a better win than Froch's UD over AA. Dropping a guy who was top 5 SMW at the time, that Prime Kessler wasn't able to KO, outweighs a domination over an AA who didn't want to take risks. :hi:
you are under Froch outboxing abraham spell. You will soon wake up. I am not Biasing Froch at all. Froch got my respect. But Froch to FTKO Bute, is plain stupid. I`ve also seen threads : Froch ATG. You seriously need to ****ing wake up. All of you.
He is talking about the ring magazine rankings dumbass Andrade was #1 IBF to but #3 overall from all the SMW division
your the one going on about andrades ranking...im just telling you ibf rankings mean jack ****....thats why brinkley was brought up.. if you think that butes win over the gatekeeper andrade is superior to frochs win over aa then thats your perogative...:good bute will get tested at some point and i hope he fights froch..:bbb showtime will just have to dig up some bums to keep butes unbeaten record while he waits to meet a top 168 fighter...:hey