Froch - Now let's be Objective

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  1. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    I've stressed over and over, Dirrell is going to win and win convincingly.
    I can see there being some type of controversy and we will be up in arms on here the next day. Could you imagine if both fights ended with very very controversial decisions, not a good look for boxing and lets just hope it doesn't happen.
     
  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Yes , I am a Froch fan. I don't base my love of boxing soley on which country I am from , unlike the poster Rickxv1 , who thinks anyone from his country is better than everyone else , and all non British ( especially Americans ) are inferior , if you knew that poster better you would see why I said what I did to him. No offense meant to anyone else
     
  3. craigseventy

    craigseventy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that's fair enough and good that you support people from other countrys. In england it's easy to be a bit biased towards our fighters. I think it's due to the fact that England is pretty small in comparison to say america, so everyone kinda seems like your home town hero.
     
  4. HitMAn76

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    Carl´s better than alot of you guys think. If i were to fight in super six he would be the last opponent i´d pick. He is clearly not the best boxer, but you know its going to be war in there and anything can happen. Kessler called him the only real man in Super Six besides himself haha and im sure the other boxer in Super Six have great respect for him no matter what trash they speak. Alot of people see Carl Froch as a limited fighter but hes not that limited. Its impossible to become an Amateur World Champion if you´re very limited and his pro record speak for itself. Carl´s biggest problem is his style such a style doesn´t allow him to have a long career. Eventually i see him getting dropped and not beating the count. The question is ...how many top fights does he have left in him ?
     
  5. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    I understand that ya , I am from LA and that's one of the major reasons Mosley is one of my favorite fighters of all time , that and his Style . I like froch because he seems like one of my friends , and he is really genuine. Not to mention that he beats the crap out of people and never stops fighting.
     
  6. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you're an englishman so you need to say why he was wrong rather than be dismissive and say nothing.
     
  7. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    froch is limited at world level but hes making the best of it.

    like most limited fighters who make it this far he needs an iron chin and an iron will. being that sort of fighter makes you feel like superman too to an extent.

    if kessler really said that he and froch are the only real men in this tournament then thats very ironic, but kessler told me before he fought calzaghe that mayweather was the best fighter in the world and he (kessler) was second.

    kessler's never had a bad word to say about floyd as far as i know but he definitely knows WHY he's the best.
     
  8. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Lol , and why couldn't you be dismissive and stay quiet ??
     
  9. HitMAn76

    HitMAn76 Champ Full Member

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    Well Carl´s been down but got up and won...so to me his chin still looks very solid. His last 2 fight were very close fights and he won them both...how was that possible without having an iron will ?

    Kessler´s favorite boxer is Mayweather he said that more than once. He mainly likes him because of his technical skills.
    Kessler did not say he considered Carl Froch to be one of the best boxers in the world. I think what Kessler meant by saying he considered Carl Froch as a real man in the Super Six....was his ability to take a punch and making it a war in the ring.
     
  10. D-Wreck

    D-Wreck Active Member Full Member

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    I've got a lot of respect for both fighters, and I'm not a bigger fan of one fighter than the other.
    Here's is my objective analysis:
    --Many people think that Froch has a couple of flaws in his game, most notably a somewhat porous defense and less-than-stellar handspeed. This has led some to believe he is not a good boxer. His amatuer background should dispel that myth.

    --Froch has a bruising style that lends itself to sapping the strength and confidence out of his opponents. In the Taylor fight it was especially evident. Taylor was looking great in the opening rounds, and I thought he had a good chance at scoring a knockout about 3 rounds into the fight. But as the fight progressed, he kept eating some good shots and being battered by Froch, and ran out of gas by round 8 or so. I had Froch winning most of the second half of that fight.

    --Froch is a big, strong super-middleweight. He carries the weight very well and always looks strong in the right.

    --Dirrell has all the athleticism in the world, including outstanding handspeed and a tricky orthodox/southpaw back and forth style.

    --Dirrell has fought some decent opposition as of late and looked good doing it. But he has also shown a propensity for defensive lapses from time to time, most notably leaving dropping his hands when back peddling or on the ropes.

    --Dirrell is a hell of a puncher when he puts his combos together well, which he does often.

    I think with every passing round, Froch gains confidence and Dirrell loses it (much like the Froch-Taylor fight). Dirrell needs to do significant damage early to take Froch's confidence and the fans out of the fight. If he fails to do so, I see Froch starting to assert himself by round 4 or 5. We all know Dirrell has never been into the deep rounds in a world-class fight, and no one knows how he will react. Because of the venue and the fact that Dirrell has never been in a fight of this magnitude, I think Froch will overwhelm him and win by 9th or 10th round KO.
    However, with that being said, I could see Dirrell landing some big punches early and maybe defying the critics with an 4th KO. But I'm taking Froch in this one.
     
  11. HitMAn76

    HitMAn76 Champ Full Member

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    I think you made a good and very objective post :good
    I agree with most of it but i do think Dirrell´s lacks power and i don´t see him as a great puncher. Its a different league for him now
     
  12. djtech2k8

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    If you are trying to say that Froch beat him up, that's not true. JT was winning the fight IMHO up until he ran out of steam and KO'd. I mean watch again and you will see the last couple rounds he had nothing left. Yes Froch finished him, but his conditioning has been an issue for a long time now. It got him again. Its not Froch's fault, I agree, but Froch did not beat him up.