Froch robbed big time

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  1. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    Thats what i think, if it was the old 15 rdr then Froch would stop him, but depite two of the scorecards being a bit of a joke Froch cant complain as he let Kessler dictate a couple rds in the middle of the fight.

    I had it a draw but can see arguements for either guy getting the decision but not wider than 1 or 2 pts.
     
  2. Doc (aka Meke)

    Doc (aka Meke) Active Member Full Member

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    was odd... Froch was clearly losing on points, but you had always the feeling that he could pull out a haymaker and send Kessler to a la-la land.

    Kessler has an excellent chin (otherwise he would have get KOed by Ward's head butts!) but it looked to me that Froch shots had a buzzing effect on him (think he was once in a real trouble).

    I don't know what was wrong with Froch, but he was way too inactive for my liking. Kessler was overly aggressive and was there for taking. After the good 4 rounds with constant movement (including head), Kessler reverted to his old - almost getting panic attacks (and returning in straight lines) when the other guys goes into offense.

    Froch is tough cookie and although he lost clearly (had it 116-112, while being kind to Froch), I would actually bet on him in a rematch (by a KO). He just looked so much more solid and stronger than Kessler.
     
  3. Jepster

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    The guy you're quoting admitted the thread was a wind up. He himself had it 117-111 I had it 116-112.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/8638338.stm:

    By Ben Dirs
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    Britain's Carl Froch lost his WBC super-middleweight title on Saturday, outpointed by Denmark's Mikkel Kessler after a brutal encounter in Herning.
    Froch, 32, lacked urgency from the outset, allowing Kessler to come forward and dictate with his jab.
    Kessler was cut over the left eye in the ninth, but he soon regained his composure and Froch did not do enough down the stretch to sway the judges.
    The fight was scored 117-111, 115-113, 116-112, all in Kessler's favour.
    "I feel terrible that I lost my title, absolutely gutted," said Froch. "I don't want to make a mockery of anything but I feel it it was at home in my town, the decision would have gone the other way."
    "I took some big punches off a big puncher and I've got to give Kessler the credit he deserves. He stayed in there and is a strong, proud warrior."
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    Awesome fight! and a very close one! I think hometown advantage and the greater work-rate throught the 12 rounds from the Dane was key to the victory


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    The defeat is the first of Froch's 27-fight professional career and he will now need to beat Germany's Arthur Abraham in his next fight to secure a place in the semi-finals of the Super Six super-middleweight tournament.
    That fight was expected to take place in August, but the savage nature of his bout with Kessler might mean it is put back until later in the year.
    As for Kessler, who lost to Wales' Joe Calzaghe in 2007, the victory probably saved his career following his emphatic defeat at the hands of American Andre Ward last December.
    Froch needed to assert himself from the opening bell to quieten a fiercely partisan crowd at the 10,000 capacity Messecenter, but it was Kessler who spent the first few rounds coming forward, even if he was not landing with much.
    The first third of the fight was tight, with the 31-year-old Kessler stalking the champion and fighting behind his stiff left jab and Froch looking a little ragged on the back foot.


    Trainer Robert McCracken implored Froch to up his work-rate at the end of the fourth and he looked to have Kessler down in the fifth, but referee Michael Griffin ruled it a slip.
    It was over the next four rounds that Froch let the fight get away from him, with Kessler coming forward in straight lines and planting jabs and hurtful rights to the body and Froch unable to nullify him.
    Froch's low-slung jab was a limp imitation of the challenger's and in the eighth the champion was stiffened by a huge overhand right from Kessler, although Froch recovered his composure well.
    Kessler landed with a sweet uppercut in the ninth and looked to nick that round, although Froch managed to open up a deep cut over Kessler's left eye and the Dane, looking a little flustered, proceeded to lose the following round.
    With Froch's corner sensing their man might be in need of a knockout, the 11th unravelled into a wild affair, with Kessler exploding a huge right hand on Froch's neck and Froch surging back before the bell.
    Both men looked set to drop in the final round, with Kessler landing with a big left and Froch retaliating with a massive right that had Kessler tottering backwards with 30 seconds to go.
    But the immensely game Kessler stayed on his feet and while a couple of the judges' scorecards looked far too lop-sided, Froch could have few arguments with the outcome.
     
  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    :lol:

    The wee ****er had me because he's scored another fight last year on ring generalship. I thought he was up to his old tricks...:patsch
     
  5. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: I should fish for a living,i'd make a fortune off people like you.One cast and a bite guaranteed.:good
     
  6. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    Jimmy Montoya Kessler's new trainer was very instructive after that round. IMO he saved Kessler. I was so scared that Froch would take his head right off after he was cut in the ninth. I seriously thought he would stretch Kessler out in one of the last rounds. Kessler was too slow on his feet and he need to find the Kessler from the Andrade fight. Kessler won't win a rematch against Ward or a fight with Dirrell unless he improves further.

    Froch was severely hurt from Kessler's body shots. It looked as if his ribs were hurting him something fierce.
     
  7. Doc (aka Meke)

    Doc (aka Meke) Active Member Full Member

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    you can look it at by some program easily...pm if interested.

    and sorry to break you the news, but I'm afraid we won't see the old Kessler anymore. Those times are gone and ain't coming back, despite a clear cut point win over Froch (was way closer as one had a feeling Froch was always a shot away from a KO and Kessler being unusually fragile and hittable).
     
  8. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    You were in on this? **** you :lol:
     
  9. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    You've been punked you **** ...I had the fight 115-113 Kessler (check out the Brit forum for sensible posts) but wouldn't have argued with the fight going to Froch by the same margin or even the draw. Like an earlier poster said, I think that in a rematch Froch wouldn't be so wary and would stop the Dane, but thats for another time.

    Piece of advice, if you want to maintain your credibility please don't constantly whack on about the size of your TV, its crass (mines bigger) and never, ever quote Ben Dirs as any sort of authority on anything, he is by far and away the worst sports "journalist" ever. (the clue is in the name Ben Dirs - Benders, get it? Like Ben Dover)
     
  10. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  11. randeris

    randeris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh right i'm sorry. If you know Bert Gilroy then obviously everyone should just up and hail the master of scoring a fight. Arrogant douche. Tell me then, what do you define as ring generalship? From what i've read through the first 7 pages it is "controlling a fight with the jab". I think Kessler may even have landed more jabs. It was a close fight, so 117-111 either way is stupid. Kessler won the fight though. 114-114 is acceptable too, but i do think that Kessler did enough. Even Froch wouldn't call for a 117-111 win. It was a close fight and everyone can see this, but you. Guess you are just above everyone huh? Or maybe, perhaps more likely, you have a wrong perception on how to score a fight.
     
  12. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing journalists around the world agree Kessler won.

    Even UK newspapers know this:

    For example, from the SundayMirror:
    "But the home town hero had built up a considerable points advantage that Froch must have been concerned about.
    The 11th round was a slug fest. Froch knew he had to stop the Dane and delivered right crosses that smashed into Kessler’s face, but failed to halt the Dane in his tracks."

    Why is it then that the people who cannot score a fight at all absolutely have to log into ESB and air their ignorance?

    Kessler won a close, but absolutely clear win.
     
  13. Jepster

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    Yeah you got me :deal

    I didn't watch the fight at my place. My tv ain't nothing to brag about :lol:

    The point I was referring to was that I could understand scoring the fight to Froch if you watched the fight on a stream. It is difficult to score a fight on a lagging stream.
     
  14. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Christ. Nobodies reading the posts any more!!!
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    or i was joking

    i dont think it is quite safe to proclaim you affairs with hairy men in your bed, quite yet.