Froch ruined AA for good - I don't expect him to bounce back from this

Froch never smashed Dirrell.

 

anglo-saxon is trying to atone for past sins, it seems. personally, i'm all for it and i'll give him a big thumbs up if he says as much....

 

I expect AA to move back down to Middleweight and go after Martinez. AA was a beast at Middleweight but his power isn't the same at SM.

 

He smashed the fight out of Dirrell, then he proved last night he is a much classier boxer than Dirrell by beating the **** out of the guy that beat up Dirrell.

Froch has beaten them both very convincingly, besides, Dirrel has a glass jaw and glass heart to match.

 

easier said than done. i thought AA was effective with what he could do at MW but he was always pretty raw

 

As one of AA's fans I've to admit that he was a big letdown yesterday. To be honest I really think he has no business in the Super Six any longer. He was more inactive than ever and didn't risk anything. It looked like he was scared to trade with Froch.

I don't want to take anything away from Froch, but Abraham isn't the fighter who fought Miranda with a broken jaw anymore. His braveness and toughness seems to have vanished. Also, he seems not to be capable of increasing his punch output.

When there were rumours about a possible AA vs. Kelly Pavlik fight at 160, Boo told everyone that AA is tailor-made for Pavlik, because Pavlik is (was?) a relentless volume puncher. If I take the version of AA which fought Froch yesterday, Boo is correct. However, the "old" Abraham would have risked more like he did last night.

To sum it up - I don't think that it is the better opposition (Dirrell, Froch) alone which makes AA look bad. He also seems to have lost his fighting spirit and toughness. The current version of AA is only a shadow of the version which fought Miranda, Eastman, Ikeke. Yesterday he corroborated the belief of those posters who think he is massively overrated. It's his own fault. He was a huge disappointment whereas Froch looked excellent.

 

He can't make the weight.

Also, I don't think his power isn't the same or overrated. Have you seen him hitting Froch with his right hand? He was totally inactive, hit Froch with a jab from time to time and all of his very rare combos were not precise and didn't land (problems with timing and closing the distance).

 

AA just came out flat, it happens to fighters. The Dirrell fight went the way a typical AA fight usually goes, except Dirrell was bigger and more talented than past opponents. However AA came on strong towards the end and looked like he could've taken Dirrell out before the DQ ended things early. Abraham never landed anything on Froch who showed great discipline and respect for Abraham's power. He'll be up against it with Ward, but Ward does like to fight close unlike Froch, and that will only help Abraham's chances. I'm picking the midget king.

 

I don't think Ward has the free ride that everyone thinks he's going to have. Froch fought a perfectly disciplined fight. Even though Abraham didn't score anything, you could feel the pressure in the ring. There's going to be a lot more infighting and clinching with Ward.

 

He deffo had bad night at the office and when he fought miranda at mw he had a good one. alao miranda aint no froch in any way or form and could never deliver the performance we witnessed from carl last night. also mw is not smw.

suggesting he isn't wasn't the same fighter is a bit harsh. It may well be the case, however i would like to think Abraham came up against a style he could not deal with. Taking frochs power for a full 12 and not being able to land a punch is much different to fighting miranda who was there to be clobbered too.

 

that's defending AA by saying he was never beat..even by froch...Abraham beat himself and just don't want to fight.

I think in time...he just got figured out. and it's hard for him to change what he knows and how he fights...

 

he got beat by both Dirrell and froch.. froch was already singing dirrells hit song

 

Maybe, but even if you're correct - Abraham didn't throw anything dangerous back the whole fight. He made it far too easy for Froch. AA knew that Froch has the reach advantage and is a volume puncher. He fought guys like him - although not as good - before. Yesterday he seemed to be scared to risk anything. Uli Wegner, his coach, also complained about Abraham not taking risks. If you see it that way, AA did (partially) beat himself.

 

frickin arthur clottey

 

I can see it going down that way should AA not make a commitment to learning how to counter and up his output. It seems to me as if he is simply refusing to risk being hit. I mean he has shown tremendous toughness and heart in the past, I don't know what changed. I guess Dirrell showed the way to beat AA is to keep up the attack and force AA to shell up. Froch took it to another level and embarrassed AA. I won't say AA is finished, but he'd better be finished fighting like he has the last 2 fights(save a few rounds vs Dirrell at the end).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you meant when AA and Pavlik were going to fight at 160.......?

I think it is equal parts opposition and AA. I think the opp is making him uncomfortable by keeping leather on him, and he has no answers.