Froch ruined AA for good - I don't expect him to bounce back from this

Yes, thanks for clarifying.

 

What BigBone said

 

To be fair -when u are being clouted from all angles and you hide behind your guard u r asking to be battered by the better fighters of the world. Abraham hasn't boxed anyone along the same lines of froch before. Hiding behind a high guard impedes ones ability to counter punch effectively for sure. To beat frochs style there needed to be some immediate return fire - Abrahams style doesn't lend to anything immediate.

 

He should've come out of his shell sooner and more often to immediately counter Froch's attacks. That would've changed the fight. He didn't do that and looked almost like he was scared to take that risk. In this case he's the wrong man for such a tournament.

 

He tried. Froch was surprisingly sharp and effective in getting out of range. Abraham simply couldn't catch him at all.

 

Froch was good in that, I agree. However, I don't think he tried enough and on top of that he had no rhythm and whenever he tried to hit Froch with his combos (which didn't happen too often) he was unable to close the distance. Now you can say this was solely, because Froch was that good (he was good, no doubt), but I think that AA made it too easy for him as well. In my opinion AA was afraid. He was scared to get hit (can't believe I'm writing this, but's this is the way I see it) and if this is the case you can't win against a fighter like Froch. AA has to take risks at 168 because of his style and because of his size and if he is scared to take risks he should retire or improve his game, change his style, coach, etc... there are a lot options, but what he can't do is to just continue.

 

Arguello, Haglar, Little Red, Mosely, Oscar, Winky, Hopkins, and the list goes on. If every fighter who ever lost a fight people thought he would win quit afterward, there would be ZERO all time greats, and the hall of fame would be as empty as Michigan Warrior's fantasies.

I'm not saying Abraham has hall of fame potential. I'm just saying it is silly to make absurd assumptions based on 2 losses. ****-oh-dear! Arguello once lost a "tune-up" fight to a journeyman with a 5 win - 6 loss record! Little Red lost two in a row to journeyman at one point. Mosely had a stretch where he did not win a meaningful fight for years. These guys got up, got going, and got back on top. AA is not in their league skill wise, but only time will tell us what he has left to offer the sport.

 

Problem is that these fighters came back stronger and hungrier after a loss. Abraham looked half asleep from the opening bell. Now, some may say: no, it's just Abraham, this is how he always was... but if that's the case, he ain't got no future at SMW.

 

I'm no AA fan, or apologist, but he lost two fights to a couple pretty good fighters. That does not mean he is finished like the TS implied.

 

He may not be finished, but would you not say that you would have expected more of a Champion in his come-back fight? It's not the fact that he lost, but the way he went about it, whilst losing. I would be underrating him if I said I wasn't very disappointed.

 

I think the OP meant that AA will never be the same again due to the nature of the one siding beating he took,ala Jeff Lacy. Those sort of defeats tend to ruin good fighters forever

 

A mere puncher's chance against Ward. He has no inside game. It's pathetic.

 

Think Dirrell ****ed with AA's psyche. Someone here called it when they said AA was cracking up when he was at that aerobic dance place working on his footwork.

 

Abraham won a vacant title that Jermain Taylor vacated. He won it by beating Ikeke, and Ikeke's best win to date was an old worn out Emmet Linton. Hopkins, Taylor, Pavlik, Martinez. Abraham is not part of the lineage. He has never been a world champion, and I was not particularly surprised by his performance against Froch.

Froch makes some really serious mistakes with his left hand, so I did think Froch might get caught and stopped. However, AA was the only guy I've seen fail to take at least some advantage of Froch's flaws, and the rest is history. If one considers Abraham's fights with Elvin Ayala and Lujaun Simon, there is nothing surprising in the Froch fight.

 

I Dont think Arthur abraham is done ..far from it, I predicted a froch stoppage in the later rounds, Abraham will come back with vengeance and harder, I see him stopping ward in his tracks, this might sound deluded but i can see him outboxing ward, and if anyone argues with me check my predictions!!!