Froch-Taylor: Purse bid on Jan. 9!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Maxime, Dec 22, 2008.


  1. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I'd like to see Glenn Johnson or Kessler get the fight. HBO won't support Froch vs Taylor.
     
  2. oksehud

    oksehud Member Full Member

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    I'm afraid this will end in a bidding war between Hennessy and Palle.

    -Meaning that they will underbid each other to get the Taylor fight.
    Hennessy will end up going lower than Palle, so Palle backs out.
    Negotiations between DiBella & Hennessy breaks down over where the fight will take place.
    Taylor will end up fighting Winky (Yawn)
    Palle will already have found another subpar opponent for Kessler, either mandatory Gusmyl Perdomo or Dane Mads Larsen (only of interest for danes and Palle/Sauerlands wallet)
    Froch will fight whoever.....

    Sad for all parts....

    I'm not saying this is the way it goes down, but it is entirely possible...
     
  3. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually think they would in the end... Another Britain VS. US match-up.
     
  4. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    The HBO audience is by far more acquainted with Taylor than Froch. Not even close. And HBO is concerned with its own audience and potential audience, not the well-being of boxing fans at large.

    That's just how it is. Froch is "Euro beltholder" in the eyes of the American public. That's all he brings to the table.

    I don't view it that way, which if you are familiar with my posts should be obvious, but I'm also not blind to the reality of things, either.
     
  5. DStew

    DStew Active Member Full Member

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    How many people saw Froch's last fight?

    How many people is the most that have seen a Taylor fight?

    Your statements are based on facts, rather than perception. Do you have sources?

    Also, how many people would've watched Froch's last fight if it had been on PPV, which is where most of Taylor's fights have been? Taylor has never had a fight on free tv (outside of the olympics), as unfortunately that's not the way boxing is marketed in the U.S.

    My statement was based on my own perception, which seems to go along with opinions of other boxing fans that I have encountered and from reading forums like these. We generally know whether or not a belief we hold is in the majority or minority, and the perception that Taylor holds the power in this equation is a very common one. Call it "faith" if you like but the fact that Taylor has far more noteable names on his resume than Froch, has achieved greater success, and has been in the public eye for much longer, would indicate to any reasonable person that Taylor is a bigger name than Carl Froch.
     
  6. oksehud

    oksehud Member Full Member

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    -So is Kessler, but at least he is better looking....:lol:
     
  7. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd be disapointed with a Taylor - Johnson fight. Probably wouldn't be a bad little scrap, but it would be made for the wrong reasons. Bad fight for Taylor, too - his people would be smart to keep him away from that; not a good risk/reward situation.

    I think Kessler/Froch wouldn't be looked upon as a bad option for Kessler. If he wants to clean out the division, which presumably he does, he's going to have to get Froch at some point. If the terms aren't there with Taylor, he has other options. Froch is coming off a great performance, they could do a good gate and EU TV.

    I have a bad feeling we'll end up with Taylor/Winky. It's the way the wind has been blowing - older, set names fighting on fumes. Christ, Winky's been off over a year. Maybe put Kessler on the undercard if the $$ could be right for him (kinda doubt it would be, though; probably better off going the Froch route).
     
  8. DStew

    DStew Active Member Full Member

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    :bump

    Got any solid numbers, Cobbler?
     
  9. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I hope they can get it done ..
     
  10. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that says more about the casual fight fans knowledge in America rather than anything else. If you dont want to watch the 2 best guys in a division going at it, even if they are both foreign, you aint a real boxing fan.

    I'd guess for all real fans bar a few hardcore Calzaghe haters it was a must see.
     
  12. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    an article about the fight with a guess about the audience it got or was going to get from carl froch.

    my own view it was less than this but we dont get the viewing figures like we used to from the tv companys themselves.
    i know that amir khan used to get 6,000,000 for fighting
    1 armed gimmee`s on the same channel.

    my guess 2 to 4 million watched



    Froch's match with Pascal will be shown a couple of hours after the latest instalment of ITV1 talent show The X Factor, and the inherited audience should help boost Froch's profile.
    "Saturday is as big as it gets," said Froch.
    "Around 12m people will be watching and I've got a chance to tap into that. It's big exposure and will catapult me to being a big name, not just to ordinary boxing fans, but to your average sports fan. I'll be a household name."
    Pascal will be no walkover. The 26-year-old Canadian is unbeaten in 21 fights, 14 of which have been won by knockout, and beat Liverpool's Paul Smith to win the Commonwealth Games gold medal in 2002.
    But Froch, who is unbeaten in 23 fights, has home advantage, with 8,000 fans expected at Nottingham's Trent FM Arena. Against a man who has never fought outside of North America, they may prove crucial.
    "Anyone who is ranked in the top five by the WBC is no bum," said Froch, a former two-time ABA middleweight champion and bronze medallist at the 2001 World Amateur Championships.
    "It's world-class boxing and this Pascal means business. He's unbeaten in 21 fights and is coming to Nottingham to win that belt.
     
  13. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    This fight isn't going to a purse bid ... all DBEnt have to do is offer Froch half million flat and he'll be fine ... or offer him something in the mid six figures because I know that no one has paid Froch more than 100k for a fight.

    Taylor has to get the large chunk of the purse ... considering that Froch is doing his first defense and Taylor is a former champion.
     
  14. Arkanscott

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    The problem is one of exposure. It isn't that Americans can't rally for a foreign fighter, its just that, for whatever reason, Kessler and Froch haven't had many fights shown over here.
     
  15. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I bet that Froch probably prices himself out ... and thats why it has to go to a purse bid.