Froch thinks Hopkins was robbed vs Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kmac, Dec 1, 2011.


  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    So, Calzaghe missed all night long
     
  2. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Hopkins won the first half, dominated Calzaghe like no one had before, and dropped him in the first round. Joe dominated Bhops in his fashion and outlanded him as well. Both dominated the other in different parts of the fight it coulda gone either way. For some, Joe just landed too many being the machine he was and Bhops dropped him on his ass and then schooled him putting on a clinic so their was no clear winner.
     
  3. Broony

    Broony Active Member Full Member

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    watching live I had Hopkins
     
  4. Welsh Dragon

    Welsh Dragon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stick to the facts pleasse


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  5. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    yes, prime 43 yr old hbop. :lol: i live in the states and i guarantee you that more fight fans here were pulling for joe to beat bhop. i was personally pulling for bernard because i can't stand delusional, brit chumps like yourself.

    please stop comparing joe to manny or floyd. they are great fighters, joe is not.
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joe left SMW when he cleared out the division. Calzaghe had retired completely from Boxing before Froch or Ward even became world champs, so what are you going on about :huh?
    Kessler was the top SMW when Calzaghe left the division.

    What bums are you going on about?
    If you work out how many fighters were top 10 rated and how many became top 10 rated after Calzaghe beat them he fought 22 SMW title fights and 15 were or became top 10 rated. I havent included Ferreyra who had been top 10 rated before fighting Calzaghe
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    Thats very good but even better when you note Calzaghes LHW career, because as a career total it becomes
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    Any fighter with 24 world title fights are going to have a few gimmes. Still lets not forget that Salmaci, Echoles and Tate pulled out against Calzaghe
    Which poor opposition. The best fighter Froch has faced is Kessler and Calzaghe had already beaten Kessler
    Who has Froch dared to fight?. You will make yourself look silly by trying to answer this one :oops:

    Kmac himself had Calzaghe winning by the way.

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    . I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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    1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
    2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
    3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
    4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
    5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
    a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
    b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
    c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
    d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
    e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
    f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
    g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
    h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
    i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

    I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

    6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
    7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
    8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
    9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.

    Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
    Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
    Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

    What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.