Froch V Calzaghe. A Close Fight?

I dont disagree really.
I think Froch would take alot of shots and not get through with many. I think Froch would lose a wide decision.
Calzaghe often fought to the level of his comp, but I think Froch with how he is a bit plodding would make Calzaghe look similar to how he did when he beat Lacy

 

Froch didnt beat the same Kessler that Calzaghe did.
Calzaghe beat a prime undefeated world champ Kessler.
Froch lost to an unwell, double vision suffering, faded fighter coming off a loss and beat a further faded and rusty version of Kessler years later.
I think not only prime Kessler, but Eubank also is a level above Froch, and I think the Lacy, Calzaghe beat is up there as well as arguably possibly Mitchell.
Froch was often outboxed ie Taylor, Adamu, Groves, Ward, Dirrell and lost in the trenches to Kessler as well as some wins that get debated against Johnson and Pascal. Now Froch won many of those, but the blueprint was there.
Froch had a close debateable decision against old faded, boiled down end of career Johnson, who when prime lost to Sheika who Calzaghe beat, so not really sure what this level is you mention when you realise the era is not the same

 

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Debateable ?

You really are clutching at straws now.

As for your common opponent triangulation........

Froch although a CLEAR winner, knew he'd been in a fight against Johnson.

Bute gave Johnson a one sided pasting, Johnson was so afraid of Lucians liver shot, he became totally defensive in the fight.

And guess what happened when Froch fought Bute ??????

 

I think Froch could only win by KO. He is very heavy handed so it's possible he might have.

 

Froch's footwork is also atrocious, as is his balance, defence, punch variety, speed etc..

Carl Froch has absolutely no plan B in fights, he is a very limited, crude brawler who's chin and stamina got him to world level.

Calzaghe would have a field day with this type of opponent, with his adaptability and multi-faceted boxing style.

This isn't a close fight, two different levels of fighter.

 

We'll have to wait and see.

Brewer and Bika didn't have any noteworthy wins, Roy was finished as a top level fighter, and Mitchell and Veit weren't that good.

 

1. Ward and Calzaghe have similar techniques. Both rely heavily on maintaining the initiative in a fight. Both like to tie up and roughhouse on the inside. Both like to peck away with multiple jabs from the outside. Both rely heavily on body-head combinations. Both rely heavily on quickness and offensive footwork. But primarily, the comparison was to point out a major flaw in the argument that one has to hit hard to trouble Froch and that he could walk through the slaps.

2. Calzahe wasn't one to get into that nonsense before the fights. And in the ring, a macho tear-up would suit Calzaghe. I think the fight would largely consist of him bullying Froch around on the inside, since Froch's inside game consists of holding with the left arm and banging away with right-hand rabbit punches.

3. and 4. Every knockdown was the result of Calzaghe coming toward a counterpunch. I can't recall Froch ever catching anyone coming in. His style and temperament aren't suited to it.

 

There's similarities between Joe and Ward like you've noted, but their styles were quite different. Joe was faster, and he threw an awful lot of shots, sometimes concentrating more on volume than accuracy. Although he was a great fighter, he could be very scr*ppy at times. Whereas Ward picks his shots a lot more carefully. But I think Carl would have been in a completely different mindset fighting Joe, and he'd have been a lot more fired up and aggressive.

Joe and Carl have huge egos, and in my opinion it would have been a certainty that there'd have been heated confrontations at the pressers and the weigh in etc. We've seen them constantly taking pot shots at each other through the media and on social media over the past few years. Having a reckless shoot out based on emotion doesn't really favour anyone.

I'm not saying that I think Carl would have knocked him down, but if Joe hadn't have kept his composure, it could well have happened. The possibility would always have been there in my opinion.

There's not a doubt in my mind on who I think would have won the fight, but I don't think it would have been as easy as what you think.

 

He had two 10 count KO's. More than Amir Khan especially when you consider Khan's only real KO was a low blow vs Judah.

Not only is this status a load of *******s but it means nothing. A lot of the guys Calzaghe did stop were badly hurt, Lacy's career was ruined by not being saved earlier.

 

Yeah Froch was a novice who had more fights than Groves did when he fought Froch but Froch's big night in Wembley defines British boxing apparently according to you.

 

Carl's is already 2-0 on Joe


1. Won the dancing showdown (like a bad acid trip Joe's rigormortis tango lives long in the memory)

2. Won the Battle on the Cobblestones via forfeit KO