Froch V Calzaghe. A Close Fight?

Get ready for the stats.

 

It'll end up being a similar # to the amount of world class opponents that Froch fought. I'm just interested in seeing who Bailey will list as being world class.

Kessler, Hopkins, Lacy, Eubank. Reid, Mitchell and Brewer. Not much after that as I see it.

 

bbbrr eubank world class, not sure about that at the time he fought joe, he had obviously lost a lot. lacy too is a bit of a push for world class, hes one of the worst smw titlists we've seen, but it was good to see joe finally fight someone who wasn't a serial weakling and come out tops.

Mitchell was world class until he crocked his back and had to retire, at which point team calzaghe offered him a title shot.

 

It's subjective, but you know he'll hype all of Joe's wins. He'll list whoever was rated in the top ten at SMW by the likes of the WBO, and then he'll give you a huge amount of stats that are all in someway linked to a title holder/former title holder.

Statistics don't allow for circumstances. I've told him this numerous times. In my opinion, the WBO were a joke, and for the majority of Joe's career, the SMW division was weak. So the stats are irrelevant to me. Just because someone was rated in the top ten by the WBO, it didn't mean they were world class in my opinion. Thomas Tate springs to mind. Earlier this year, Bailey told me that if Tate hadn't have been injured against Joe and Joe had have beaten him, the win would have been impressive because Tate was ranked in the top ten. But what he doesn't realise, is that Tate was only ranked in the top ten, because again, the division was weak at that point.

Yes, If fighters are ranked in the top ten of a division, then statistically, they are world class fighters. And if a guy wins a world title, then statistically, he's a world champion. But again, you've simply got to look past the stats and put things into context. Sakio Bika won the WBC belt. But in my opinion, he hasn't had a noteworthy win in his entire career. Neither has Charles Brewer. But Bailey is blinded by statistics. He'll try and tell you that the likes of Mario Veit were great fighters.

He's one of a kind.

 

Bailey's a great guy and a total asset to the board. As Mind Reader said, ESB would be a much worse off place without him. But its insane trying to claim Zaggers has a better resume than Froch. Carl's resume is absolutely ridiculous. From the day he beat Taylor in an incredible display of toughness and announced himself on the main stage, he's spent his entire career fighting nothing but the very best the division had to offer, and engaged pretty much every one of them in hellacious wars. An ultra exciting aggressive tough as nails fighter who is every bit the legend Calzaghe is

I dont know my statistics, but i dont need to - its just so clear cut - H2H Zaggers is the GOAT @ 168, but outside of two phenominal wins over prime Kessler and prime Hopkins (and a very good win over an aging Eubank and a stunning masterclass over heavily touted Lacy) his resume is simply not that impressive, especially when compared with someone's as ludicrous as Carl's. I wouldnt argue with Bailey on it though

 

Ahh come on Serge hes just being a nice guy. So are you, so behave :smooch

 

now that would be a headfunk :nut

 

and Tyler Durden. The first rule of ESB is...