As a drunken person, on the night, I thought that Froch had lost. I did think that Dirrell's negativity would count against him, but I still had him winning by a couple of rounds. I remember posting during the fight something along the lines of " Froch is getting soundly beaten". Having watched it again , semi-sober, it was closer than I thought. I still think that Froch was made to look clueless and awkward and that if Dirrell uses his cat-like relexes positively, he could be a handful. But, IMHO he came out of that as a bit of a *****, who is probably regretting a squandered opportunity. It was a world title fight after all.
There is a young girl from Donegal who goes in my local and she has the voice of an angel, don't understand a ****ing word, but its heavenly
Exactly as I intimated in my OP. Froch needs to have a spectacular fight to ignite the GBP or he will never get any national recognition.
I wish there is an option to listen to the crowd and the ring sounds without the commentators. It's just too weird with no sound at all. I like John Rawling but he got it wrong in this fight. Dirrell was SOOOOO negative, he ruined the fight.
Agree After a day or two of reading forums I became convinced Froch got a sound hammering, was countered all night long and landed nothing Watched it again and it was nothing like that at all - if anything Froch did better than I remembered Anyone screaming robbery is talking ****
That's why I love boxing. I scored it differently...and neither of us is right (or wrong). :good But on neither of my scorecards (Drunken-live, semi drunk-replay) did Froch win. He may not have lost, to me, as a semi-sober person...... But I never had him winning. I also didn't have Dirrell doing enough to take a Champs belt from him. I expect I may have a period soon.
Spot on. Most people there thought Froch won, watching on telly thought Dirrell won. Some of that will be atmosphere and bias but on the other side you can't help but be influenced by the commentary. Would be interesting to score with commentary off or at event while others score with it on to see the difference.
The effect that commentators response has on a viewers perception of an event is very interesting...someone must have done a PHD on it. After the fight the forum was split into 3 distinct groups: those who watched the British tv output, those who watched the US version and those who were actually there. I have heard some of the US commentary and to be quite frank you would think that in Dirrell we were watching the second coming of Sweet P himself and this is reflected in the response of the US posters on here who practically all called a Dirrell win, going as far as shouting robbery. The British commentary was more balanced and this mirrors the views of British posters at the time who seemed to be split down the middle as regards who won the fight, with all conceding that it was a close and difficult to score fight. The ones who actually attended the event live, and without the "benefit" of commentary nearly without exception called the fight for Froch. This must indicate that fight fans are swayed, however slightly, one way or the other by how the "experts" on screen call the fight...its only natural, but commentators do have an effect. For what its worth I watched the fight initially on a pretty decent stream with no sound and had Froch winning by two clear, I watched the fight on ITV last night with commentary and had Froch winning, but only by 1.
Anyone who has this fight more than two either way is insane. I can happily agree with anyone who scored the fight within those margins. All this robbery talk is bollocks.