Froch v Taylor

fair enough pavlik hasn't got an ironclad resume but he's made enough waves to earn his name on the world stage.

he won't be jumping up weights in the near future after hopkins and you can bet also that hopkins won't be coming down to him.

but you're still using a 'belt' as leverage - you're not comparing opponents to legitimise this fight and you know as well as i do that belts can be leverage as much as they are smokescreens to build public momentum from fans who don't know any better.

do you?

if you want to can pavlik's resume then you need to back it up and compare it to froch's instead of leaning back on that belt which has no legitimacy and is only a negotiating tool and a stepping stone.

dont quote the "wbc champion" bull**** - tell me why froch deserves a fight against an internationally recognised fighter like taylor when he hasn't fought close to the same level of opposition.

froch's trying to call out calzaghe but he won't get that because the belt is a stepping stone in this case - its not something to bulk up a fighter's career on when they've been fighting b-graders to get it.

 

Yeah i'd like to see that. I see no reason why Taylor shouldn't fight Froch now he's his mandatory though, he could use it to prepare himself and pick up the WBC belt which would put him in a great position if he beat Kessler to unify the belts whilst being thought of as the strongest in the division. I do think Froch would be a hard fight for Taylor though. He's more skilled, but that doesn't mean everything.....

 

Well according to you, Froch and Kessler should fight to "earn" a shot at Taylor.

Would you mind telling us who does deserve to fight Taylor?

Should he just go into semi-retirement for now? There are no fights out there for him.

 

do you want to know who does deserve a shot at taylor or if taylor should semi-retire because there are no fights out there for him?

maybe froch or kessler will be lucky enough to get a shot at taylor next.

i'm not a governing body but if i was the governing body i'd pair up kessler and froch - 2 talented fighters who have never beaten a fighter of the calibre taylor has - to earn the right to fight him.

boxing is a tainted world with all the federations vying for what they want for themselves, but in a 'perfect world' i trhink what i'm suggesting makes a lot of sense.

 

He could fight Brian Vera !

 

David Haye - unified Cruiserweight champion was told he had proved nothing at Heavyweight and would need to earn a shot at Wlad, that was also the popular opinion on this board. I don't see why Froch/Kessler have to earn a shot at Taylor, who hasn't done anything at Super Middle yet and is coming off 2 losses in a lower division.

I admit Taylor has better names on his record, but why shouldn't he have to prove himself at a new weight?

 

It makes absolutely zero sense because in your bizarre world nobody deserves to fight Taylor so he needs to retire himself. So regardless of how great and proven he is, he ain't earning any money.

Stop being a clown for one second and start talking some sense. There are a number of good fights out there for Taylor, he's had one damn fight at this weight. This isn't a tournament to fight Jermain Taylor, this is a division where people need to fight each other to prove they are the best.

 

i've just answered you straight up and answered what you put on the table - but every time you reply you're not big enough to take away the lame judgments that wouldn't say to me face to face.

and you do it because the only response you have to me is to be dismissive.

if you believe in what you say - then reply without that online bull**** that you think gives you rep points because there are no consequences for your actions.

it's not brave to label people as part of your defence and put your whole defence on that. pretend i'm standing infront of you when you post instead of falling back into the childish judgments you do every time because you dont know how else to reply.

your turn. lets see how big you are.

 

It wasn't just Pavlik's power and determination that thwarted Taylor, it was his punch output. Pavlik comes forward throwing 70+ blows a round. Froch does not. Froch's defense is also lacking compared to Pavlik's, and Taylor landed on Pavlik with relative ease.

 

Taylor will duck Froch like he did before.

 

Since I hurt your feelings, pretend the insult isn't there and answer. No you didn't answer what I put on the table at all, you went off on a tangent as usual. And hence I get pissed off.

Should Taylor retire? Nobody deserves to fight him.

 

While you're insulting Taylor's opposition, you do know that Froch's last fight before Pascal was against a Polish cab driver, right?

Past his best or not, Lacy's resume is every bit as good as Froch's. The only difference is that Lacy has faced world class opposition and lost; Froch has not faced world class opposition yet.

 

i answered it above. read up.

you're an online persona and trust me, you can't hurt my feelings.

i just have no respect for people like you who have never been in the game but come online and try to disrespect people who have - regardless of who agrees with who - because you dont have to answer to anyone over the net.

that makes you a coward.

 

I agree that it was his punch output in addition. Taylor won't find it hard to land on Froch at all - I agree 100% there. I think Froch could have the power to hurt Taylor though, who also doesn't have the best defence in the world.

I hope the fight does get made so that we can see what happens. If it did i'd feel uncomfortable betting either way to be honest, but I think it'd be an exciting fight!

 

And who are you on the Internet Forum, a real life persona?

You've been in the game, you want us to bow down? Why are you trying to drop that **** in like it proves something?

Get a grip son, for somebody thats been in the game you are soft.