Froch vs AJ

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  1. Floyd #1

    Floyd #1 Member Full Member

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    Does AJ want to have a pull and a push with Froch?
     
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  2. unfriendlyorchid

    unfriendlyorchid Probably moaning about Sky Sports Full Member

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    Firstly, I like Froch as a pundit. He's one of very few who calls it as he sees it, doesn't give benefits of the doubt, and shows no promoter loyalty when he discusses matches. Probably the reason why none of the networks have picked him up permanently, but I like his integrity. Get the impression he knows he doesn't need the money, so won't sell himself out. Also admire how he and Groves have made up and they're good together.

    Secondly, the direction he's gone in with podcasts like this is disappointing. He's a troll - making outrageous comments to try and draw people in. Being sponsored by offshore casinos without UK licensing - that don't respect industry standard self-exclusion - is deeply unethical, and the kind of thing I'd have expected Froch to steer a mile clear of. Sharing the private messages is also below the belt. FWIW my view is that it's an act - which makes the contrast with his punditry even more baffling.

    Always feel that Joshua can't win. With his butter can't melt public image, many criticised him as being fake - understandably so. A few high profile bad PR steps - the Instagram comments, the speech, the post-Usyk II meltdown - many of the same people criticise him for these too, "showing his true colours" etc.

    Personally, I think more critical thinking is required. Marketing and PR is nearly always nonsense. Joshua has a chequered past, and clearly has a darker side. But what he said here to Dubois is really nothing new: he clearly has a bee in his bonnet about feeling disrespected, especially by other fighters. Go back eight years:

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  3. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Respond privately, yes. Beg for forgiveness, hell no. People who talk about private conversations are not to be trusted. Froch is just doing this for the views, you're letting your hate for Joshua blind you mate.
     
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  4. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah I agree with a lot of that.

    I think Froch has always been a bit of a troll, he likes winding people up. He's probably in his element with youtube, he might be enjoying it a bit too much though lol. Iv'e noticed the drama thing a lot of his channel recently.

    I think he can be funny with it but also blur the line. The Frank Warren John Fury stuff was amusing to me but the AJ spat could get ugly. He could probably have said what he wanted to without posting the texts.

    He also runs the risk of getting trolled himself if AJ had the brains enough to have posted those messages to "pull" on Froch's chain. they both end up looking a bit silly, I already know AJ has a bit of a god complex so nothing new there. Carl should probably let it go, hopefully he will as I have liked his persona in recent times, especially since his reunion with Groves.
     
  5. Punchdrunk1

    Punchdrunk1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not about hating Joshua.
    I just find boxing to be ridiculous these days.
    No one can voice their own opinion without being black balled.

    It's the same with everything - I can't stand this woke world we live in.

    I get your point that putting a private message into the public isn't right but if AJ is going to go round with his public persona of being nice Mr humble then send videos of him posing with money and a Rolex then he's brought it on himself
     
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  6. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At least Froch is doing it the transparent way and not just leaking them to the media, which would be a lot easier. Feeding The Sun "Boxing's Mr Humble drops his mask" would have been a decent tabloid story.

    Of course they can run it for free now but at least they don't have to make out it's an "exclusive" or anything :)
     
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  7. londonboxingess

    londonboxingess Active Member Full Member

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    Froch is a proper alpha male type, gives no ****s at all about anyone, five foot 2 or six foot nine, he is scared of nowhere, once you get used to his humour you realised he is a massive wind up merchant and quite dry, I find him funny

    He deserves some credit too for not just being a company man, how many boxers years after Matchroom etc still suck off Hearn, Froch is his own man
     
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  8. Terminator

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    Froch is trying to be the roy keane of boxing with no nonsense anecdotes and taking jibes at innocent victims
     
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  9. iamthegreatest

    iamthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I find them both quite hard to like and rather annoying.
     
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  10. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When DDD asked AJ “Who do you think you are?” he SHAT it and stood up waiting for little old Frank Warren to hold him back.
     
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  11. brit abroad Roy

    brit abroad Roy Member banned Full Member

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    What a load of hooly! Froch has an enormous ego and hubris. Cares about everything. A bitter and jealous bloke who is over sensitive to the extreme. Froch was forced into self deprication (although he doesn’t do it much) because everyone was taking **** out of him. Joshua is thick as mince but he’s got everything froth wants. He’s a man mountain and good looking, better boxer. Doesn’t need fake teeth or nose job, would get a good looking girlfriend even if skint.
     
  12. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a good analogy.
     
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  13. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They really are. Joshua is a grim individual and Dubios, still after many years of being interviewed, can barely get his words out.
     
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  14. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Typical case of retired fighter trying to do anything to stay relevant. He is great click bait. I don’t mind Froch as he was a fun fighter, but people fall for his carry on with amuses me.

    AJ is a sensitive creature, hates being criticised

    Nothing to see here
     
  15. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    looking more into this it doesn't look like Carl has done himself any favours. in the messages he himself looks to be calling AJ out and brings up he lost to a fat Mexican lol. what kind of a response does he expect from that? I assumed he dealt with it more maturely. at least only share messages when you yourself don't look like a bell end!