Froch VS Calzaghe Poll

Calzaghe biggest wins... Hopkins,Jones,Kessler,Eubank,Bika,Reid

Froch biggest wins...Taylor,Pascal..? help me I'm stuck.

 

Of course you are rofl

 

:yep

 

your getting insulted because your wasting my time.

Hopkins,Jones, Kessler, Eubank,,Reid, Mitchell, Woodhall, Brewer and Veit were world champions so what your basically saying beating 8 former world champions is nothing. i am not sure who thats insulting, Calzaghe, his opponents or boxing itself.

 

I'm comfortable even if you don't exist.

Au Contraire. When a new poster joins, and their only contribution (I use that in a loose, broad sense of the word), is to write what can only be described, by the most objective of people, as trash; THAT is known as trolling. You're welcome to try and prove me wrong, I have a good set of lungs.

Indeed, it does however, serve as a useful facillitating scenario for my argument. However - it is relative, as both fighters you mentioned, Froch and Taylor, are competitors of this tournament/competition. This tournament/competition is in the division that Calzaghe ruled, and made his 20 defences, and features another former Calzaghe opponent - one who is the overwhelming majority favourite to win outright. Calzaghe won that comfortably.

I apologise.

I have not presented Taylor as "sub world class", I brought forward perspective that Taylor isn't the world class superstar fighter that many people are attempting to subscribe to. He is fast, gifted, athletic HOWEVER he has significant flaws, and one that allowed a significant faction of posters on this very site to predict ACCURATELY how the fight would go. I remember McGrain's analysis being spot on - posted around a month before the fight.

On the other hand, a) What round did you pick Lacy to KO Joe in? b)

(TBC)

 

No threat whatsoever. Many posters here at the time of the fight will happily attest that ESB was near unanimous in a Lacy victory.

Calzaghe made 21 defences. Just to keep you in the loop, the one thing worse than stupidity/ignorance is repeated stupidity/ignorance.

Who was Froch's best opponent prior to the time of the Taylor fight? In hindsight - Pascal. At the time? Reid. A shot version of a fighter Calzaghe beat in Reid's prime. Even if we go back to Pascal - he's probably on the same level as Chris Eubank (at time of the Calzaghe fight), or maybe Brewer/Mitchell.

At the end of the day - if you believe that Taylor is as good as Calzaghe's first 20 defences (or even 21, now that you are somewhat more enlightened), then that is your opinion - something that you are entitled to. You're wrong, but that is your perogative to be so.

 

And the answer is still the same, Taylor had lost twice to a one dimensional fighter, had tough fightswith Cory Spinks and Kasim Ouma, drew with the smaller Winky Wright and then moved up a division. How is beating this man better than 20 Calzaghe title defences? Taylor is nothing special.

 

this has to be a joke? froch only won the taylor fight in the last seconds and with it being in america does it really matter? he is only known and liked in nottingham, calzaghe is welsh so fighting reid and woodhall in england is nearly the same as froch being an unknown, disliked fighter against taylor. the super six subject is quite stupid too.. it never happened when calzaghe was around so he cant be slated for not doing it while froch is. joe also beat the guy who is the favourite to win that tourney. joe didnt fight the greatest fighters that cant be argued with but there were a few ones that had recently been champions which is all taylor was(moving up in weight too) so any neutral should be able to think logically enough to see that one defence that was nearly froch's last isnt better than 20 of calzaghe's that include a few world champs

 

spot on

 

jesus, what a ****in tool.

 

Like most people who know they don't have a real argument, but simply want to "stir the pot", you ignore any response, and say "strayed from this point of discussion". I've gone into considerable detail to inform you, and enlighten you to the reasons why you're wrong. You either know it, or are oblivious - I don't particularly care, but you're blatantly IGNORING every point made to you, only to say it's irrelevant. You criticise my lack of objectivity? Where is yours? Give reasons, spell it out what makes the single defense against Jermain Taylor, who was 1:1 above 160lb at the time of the fight, is better than a Calzaghe who was 43:0 by the time he fought Kessler. Retired with a record of 44:0 at 168lb's. The only opponent Taylor beat above 160lb is Jeff Lacy.

The scenario's are as follows:

1. Jeff Lacy is such an incredible win for a fighter, that it's worth more than 20 defences. Except one of those 20 include an unbeaten Jeff Lacy. So that doesn't work.
2. Jeff Lacy was green for the Calzaghe fight, and was prime when he fought Taylor. Possible, but it's also possible that my ***** may grow an extra 5" in the next few years. I'm not putting money on it.
3. Being destroyed by Calzaghe, and suffering a rotator cuff injury actually improved Lacy to such an extent - he was a far better fighter when he fought Taylor. No.
5. Fighting on US soil is a significant disadvantage to foreign fighters, as the USA secretly sabotage foreign fighters in a bid to give their fighters the best chance possible to win. Possible, but again - until my ***** grows an extra 5", not happening.
6. Losing to Pavlik is such an incredible achievement that it's worth 43 consecutive wins without a loss. Nothing needs to be said with regards to this.
7. You're trolling, know you're trolling, and have no real response, nor argument for this. You have no points to bring forward, and your only defense is to disregard everything as "strayed from point of discussion".

Ironic that one of your final sentences to me was:

I've shown more than a willingness to engage, I've cited theoretical, actual and written examples. What have you shown?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8il4ebEitE

 

Cause Taylor is a proven elite fighter...Calzaghe 20 defenses werent agianst no PROVEN elite fighters