froch has the better opposition but calzaghe is a much higher ATG P4P figher domestically and world wide don't know why people bother with this Calzaghe is britans greatest ever SMW and probably the greatest SMW ever , obviously froch has the better record due to opposition
well obviously beating a prime undefeated kessler is better than having a win and a loss against a past it kessler
Or a lesser experienced greener version to Kessler, and a win vs a more experienced veteran version off Mikkel
froch has a far better resume, joe never really fought much opposition when you look through his record.... kessler was probably his best win to date and mikkel was still very green back then.
Froch has the bigger victory sheet. But, I'd say Calzaghe is the better boxer. If prime Calzaghe and Froch had a fight, my money would on Calzaghe on points. It would be close, but Calzaghe would be too good for Froch.
This content is protected Can someone explain how Pascal, Dirrell, Taylor, Johnson, Mack are good SMW wins? They havent done anything at the weight. Nothing. Abraham isnt a top SMW either. I thought he lost the first fight to Steiglitz and then did lose the return and how many posts were on ESB saying Steiglitz was the worst champ etc. Many on here even said Bute was a fighter that never did anything and never stepped up and not a top champ. I actually think Frochs win over Bute was excellent, but just look at how people have changed their posting to suit. This content is protected Carl Froch............VS.............Joe Calzaghe Bute.....................................Kessler --- Both undefeated world champs This content is protected (Kessler beat Froch) Kessler of now........................Eubank This content is protected Abraham.................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Abraham no pedigree at all at SMW was coming off a loss) This content is protected Dirrell....................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to Dirrell who had done nothing at SMW) This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected .......................................Veit 2 (Veit an interim SMW world champ) Taylor had not done anything at SMW and was 1-2 coming in, in his last 3 fights This content is protected Mack........................................Mkertchyan Mack had not done anything at SMW whilst Mykertchyan won a European SMW title This content is protected Johnson...................................Sheika --- Sheika was coming in with a win over prime Johnson, Froch beat faded, boiled down Johnson, This content is protected Magee......................................Reid --- Calzaghe beat prime Reid (who was a SMW champ), and faded Reid beat prime Magee. This content is protected This content is protected With that above, you can still note Brewer who was a SMW champ, Bika who is still a top 10 SMW, which shows that the era is not as strong as it used to be, Veit 1 who became a SMW champ, Manfredo when a top 10 SMW, Starie who beat undefeated Woods. Then you have the LHW wins over Hopkins and Jones A big thing is that many here do not know the division from a few years back before Lacy. People watch the SMW division because of what Calzaghe did and the S6 was to find a champ after he left the division. Im a big Froch fan and he is one of my favourite fighters, but I have watched the division from day one and his SMW resume although good isnt up there with Calzaghe, Eubank, Ottke, Kesslers yet