Froch vs Calzaghe

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  1. debaser

    debaser Active Member Full Member

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    Because Taylor had Froch on ***** street several times. Calzaghe is naturally bigger, has a better knock out percentage and has campaigned his entire career at a higher weight. Plus Froch is so easy to hit that it's not as if it would be a one off opportunity.
     
  2. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    i agree with the last part, but the way he telegraphs his shots and the speed at which he throws them would not allow him to ever put down calzaghe. he would need some kind of distance as well, which calzaghe wouldn't give him. he also starts too slowly.
     
  3. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    co-sign.
     
  4. It be a boring slapfest..... I'm not intrested in seeing Joe ever lace up his gloves again.

    Let him and his fanboys tell everyone who will listen about his ATG status and incredible "0"
     
  5. headhunter

    headhunter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Froch could beat kessler,then I'd think Joe would fight him.
     
  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Lets compare resumes at this stage.....

    Joe was WBO champion. A vacant title he had won with a victory over former WBO champion Chris Eubank.... Eubank had been preparing for a light heavyweight fight with Mark Prince on the same card having blamed his consecutive losses to Steve Collins on making the Super Middleweight limit. His struggles making the weight further evidanced by a subsequent move to Cruiserweight - completely bypassing thr light heavy limit. The win was a clear one on points. Eubank took two counts but badly shook Calzaghe in the last. Calzaghe impressed with an unusually disciplined performance against no-mark Branco Sobot then laboured to a horrible 10 round victory over ancient Juan Carlos Giminez. Sobot had recently being beaten by vulnerable Hascine Cherifi and Giminez had a massively unimpressive run in and run out... These were very much waste of time defences in Cardiff.

    Prior to the title win over Eubank, Calzaghe had built an impressive statistical record of 22-0 (21 BIG KO"S).... Impressive record on the face of it but who did he beat? Trevor Ambrose,stopped in two, was ok. He had famously ended the career of Errol Christie... Calzaghe took him on in bout number 8. Sadly he had suffered a bit of a dip in form by the time he fought Calzaghe... 11 losses out of 13 to be exact... Bobbi Joe Edwards, the big Mancunian cruiser took him the distance.. He was on a six fight losing streak. He beat decent Stephen Wilson for the British title in an unimpressive performance, no great form from Wilson but having seen him- he was a tidy boxer. The UK scene domestically was empty at the time... Prospects aside it was a landscape littered with journeyman. About the most impressive 'test' came against the then unbeaten Mark Delaney. Delaney was 21-0 (15KO's). He had mixed at a similarly mediocre level to JCs but had been less impressive labouring t a handful of victories especially in his last fight against Welshman Darron Griffiths- Calzaghe dismantled him in a one sided beat down. Impressive at the time, but Delaneys subsequent losses to Mark Baker and Neil Simpson perhaps put the win into context... or maybe Calzaghe 'ruined' him just like Lacy. Finally we have Luciano Torres who brought a fabulous 44-2 (30Ko) record to the ring.... His record remains one of the most deceptive indicators of talent in the history of queensbury boxing.... He was SHITE.... beyond SHITE.... That secured Joe's high rating with the WBO..... Perhaps his management team swapped tips with Warren on how to build unbeaten runs.

    Froch is the WBC champion.... A vacant title won against a fellow unbeaten title challenger in UK fight of the year 2008. Frochs' record is a whos who of the domestic Super Middle scene. He was takin the distance by serial journeyman Paul Bonson but then rattled off stoppages over the likes of Micheal Monaghan, former top class amateur Alan Page, Damon Hague, world rated Henry Porras in the states, Reuben Groenawald, Brian magee, Tony Dodson and Robin Reid... He also outscored the much avoided Mathew Barney who had beaten Tony Oakey and Dean Francis. In his first defence he beat the former undisputed Middleweight champion of the world Jermain Taylor.... He did this by KO in his opponents back yard....

    25-0 whose done more.???? Tough question.....:rofl
     
  7. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe via points.
    I don't think either has the power to put the other down for a count of 10, therefore Calzaghe just outworks Froch over 12. 8-4 thereabouts.
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    So ****ing what?

    How many of them were actually any good/relevant at the time?

    Hatton gets loads of **** for fighting lesser fighters in the WBU days.... but are Tackie and Phillips (the best two IMO) that much worse than Reid and Woodhall?

    Tackie had just taken Tszyu the distance and not long ago took Holt to a MD..... Phillips beat Kelson Pinto shortly afterwards.

    Reid did nothing of note post-Calzaghe, barring the Ottke shambles.... Woodhall retired to the comm box.
     
  9. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    joe in his sleep wins this!
     
  10. debaser

    debaser Active Member Full Member

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    I deal with facts, you asked a question so I answered it. Jones is a bigger puncher than Taylor with faster hands. Taylor hurt Froch several times therefore Enzo C's suggestion that Froch would be troubled by Jones is entirely valid,
     
  11. debaser

    debaser Active Member Full Member

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    As you have successfully owned yourself I won't add anything further, only offer my congratulations.

    I'm off to watch Chelsea/Barca now, I suggest you do the same, should be a *******.
     
  12. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    BB you've turned to the dark side haven't you ha ha
     
  13. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was a total joke of a fight, and a stoppage that stunk as well.

    grrrr why did Froch have to mention Calzaghe, I thought all this silly stuff was put to bed.
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    No holds barred there Jeff!
     
  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    How has he owned himself.... nothing wrong with anything he's said. I agree.