I can see if you scored all the swing rounds to Froch, you could come up with Froch winning 5 rounds. I said before that 4 rounds is about right. 5 is a stretch, and 6 is laughable. There are fights that people say "this could have gone either way" this was not one of them.
Cool. And don't take our Pac-Floyd debate as if I'm getting ****y with you, I'm not, I just get a bit fired up when discussing Manny and Money. I enjoy your posts.
By taking that into account you are basically saying the champion has an advantage in the bout before it even begins. Thats silly. The champion relinquishes his title as soon as he accepts the challenge. Both fighters are fighting for the belt. However given that Dirrell actually hurt Froch in the fight, this point is mute anyway.
I see where your coming from but I disagree, I had Dirrell winning by a round(I think) but both were very unconvincing, Froch was very sloppy and Dirrell kept running.
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i had it froch as iremeber but id have to rewatch it. dirrell was too negative and didnt assert himself on tht bout enough id have to watch agen to give scores.
I agree, for me the champ always walks into a fight with an advantage. Is it right, of course not. Like I said I scored it for dirrell by a round and thought he was unlucky not to go home with the belt. But as a froch fan, I'll take it
yes it was close but the right man won Direll was running away crying like a *****.... it would have been a travesty for him to become a world champion after that performance judging by his next performance with abraham he obviously learnt that the crying all night to the ref tactic doesnt wash in the uk!
No way froch won 6 rounds period. I don't know how he did when he didn't land 6 clean power shots upstairs and was blatantly hit with 40+ power shots. The italian judge flat out blew it giving froch 11 and 12 for the BS win. Who's pocket is he in and who's dick did he suck to get that job. Can't stand stupid **** like that. Nobody can come with a reason inside of scoring criteria saying why froch won. Just how dirrell could have did more and other studid **** like that, when the fact remains that dirrell was the only one who did anything at all. Froch had the help of his uncoditional cheering fans to confuse those idiot judges. That's the only thing I could think of without saying scandle. So I'll go with incompetant judges who get influenced by fans and can't tell what punches are landing. Froch couldn't land anything whether dirrell was moving, standing in front of him or engaging him. Froch couldn't even hit him when dirrell became agressive with him. No way I will ever respect that W. People say dirrell didn't do enough to take it when in reality, he dam sure did more than froch did to keep his belt.
Watch rounds 4,5,11,12. And then ask yourself "How could anyone in good conscience, give those rounds to Froch?"
Niether does landing alot more punches than your opponent while not being touched. I guess that doesn't work either in the UK because that's what happened. Basically saying if you don't like how a superior fighter is using his skills and speed to not give the opponent a chance to brawl, justifies going outside the scoring criteria to give someone a win. That fight was a travesty and anytime a fighters wins outside of scoring criteria it is. This is boxing and froch was gettin fustrated becuase he couldn't hit dirrell, then proceeded to get as dirty as you can get in a ring. He was a desperate man in there the whole fight and knew it regardless of what he spews to his fanbase after the fact. You can look at the tactics he was using and tell he was desperate and very worried.
just rewatched it. the first half of the fight was dreadful but needs must. i scored it 114-113 for froch. now i dont remember my first scorecard, but i still gave froch 6 of the first 9, cant remember if it was the same 6 or not. i did give dirrel round 12 this time. anyways i had it F-D 9-10 10-9 10-9 9-10 9-10 10-9 10-9 10-9 10-9 9-9 9-10 9-10 114-113 so ye 1 point in it. some rounds could have gone the other way, depends what you like. looks like the 2 rounds we disagree on are 7 and 8. when i just rewatched it now, it was on youtube hd, with no volume(as i said the mrs is asleep) plus i skipped all the 1 minute breaks. after re-watching it, i still maintain it was a close fight, and one that froch could be given(as i said i scored it him by a point) i got no problems with dirrel winning cos it would be naive of me to think that someone somewhere would not give dirrell a round that i didnt.