Froch vs Dirrell controversy thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by darryl1914, Aug 24, 2009.


  1. zarman

    zarman Guest

    this is wh i love boxing, 2 people can watch the same thing yet see it so differently.
     
  2. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not tainted. I'm jaded.
     
  3. Medicine

    Medicine Boxing Addict banned

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    I am a boxing fan.

    Froch just drives me nuts for some reason.....
     
  4. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can see why. Dirrells negative tactics CERTAINLY stand out more and look all the more horrible live. Judging at ringside is much different from judging watching a TV.

    But, 99% of posters have never judged ringside, so they couldnt know that and will continue to talk smack.
     
  5. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yeah practically unknown so why would his first loss taint a tourney this big?

    Even if it's 100 % in the polls . . . that's not an indication that Dirrel winning the fight is correct. That's the opinion of posters here . . . where majority are from U.S. :yep
     
  6. Cool2008

    Cool2008 Member Full Member

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    Yeah, the whole tournament is tainted, because of one close decision
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    That fight was no ever close. The only think Dirrell did was run, hold, fall down on canvas and complain, that is not boxing.
     
  8. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    3 pts for KO - he should go for this. If not - then he didn't do enough.
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    This tournament is tainted???:lol:



    Newsflash.......welcome to the world of boxing!:lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Clean Punching

    A clean punch is one that lands on a scoring area (face or side of head, not including the back of the head; the front and sides of the torso) with the knuckle portion of the glove. In amateur boxing, the scoring portion of the glove is white. Though a professional glove lacks such markings, the scoring portion of the glove is basically the same.

    Clean punches will land flush, not glancing or partially blocked by one's opponent. "Slapping" or "backhanding" is not allowed.
    Effective Aggressiveness

    Effective aggression is demonstrated when a fighter presses forward, and in doing so, scores more clean punches, or more damaging blows, than his opponent. If a boxer is a particularly hard puncher, even blows that are not landed particularly clean, but obviously affect his opponent, are given scoring weight.
    Ring Generalship

    The ability to control the pace and style of a fight is ring generalship. For instance, a high volume-punching brawler will attempt to force a "stick and move" boxer into a slugfest. Conversely, the pure boxer will attempt to slow the pace of the fight by keeping his opponent at the end of his jab and use angles and feints in order to set up his heavier punches.

    It is imperative that professional judges comprehend each fighter's respective style in order to understand who is controlling the action and demonstrating superior ring generalship.
    Defense

    Probably the most ignored, if not maligned, of the four judging criteria is defense. There have been boxers who were such defensive wizards, such as Willie Pep, or Pernell Whitaker, that it was virtually impossible for judges not to recognize their skill. It is said that Pep once won a round against Jackie Graves in 1946 without landing a single punch. In truth, the featherweight Pep landed a few jabs during that round, but such a story is remarkable only because it is so rare, as defense is so poorly appreciated.

    Defense is the ability to avoid punshment. A boxer with greater reach than his opponent may stay on the outside and use his footwork to avoid punches--a style often frowned on by judges. One might stay inside and slip punches. Another option is to block an opponent's punches with one's gloves, arms and shoulders, or the highly skilled fighter may choose to use a combination of defensive techniques, depending on the situation.
     
  12. psychopath

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    ^
    That !

    :rofl
     
  13. Farmboxer

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    So..........Dirrell fans believe that boxing is falling down on canvas, holding, running, and complaining. OK, nexy time a Euro does that, they should award him the fight. Always remember, in a boxing match, do not fight, just run, hold, complain and fall down on canvas.
     
  14. No10Point

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    I think both fighters got exposed.

    I am not a Froch fan.
    I absolutely laughed at his taunts at Calzaghe. Who would have did a Lacey on him. If he could take as much punishment as Lacey did ...?

    Froch can not beat Kessler
    or Abraham. This was proven by Dirrel. Who has speed but not the experience to be the fight he was in. Though I had him only loosing by 2 points. But I dont hold Froch to any high standards so ...

    And Dirrel got exposed for being
    afraid. His diving in to grab the waist to hold on...He better be gald Froch is slow and cant dip with a fast uppercut. Like Abraham and especially Kessler can do.
     
  15. Thom

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    So I take it that you scored the first 9 rounds of Wlad/Peter for Peter right?