Froch vs Dirrell controversy thread

If you'd been on this forum for more than a few days you'll realise that the 'majority' holding an opinion is not realiable as an indication of anything.

The majority are frequently ill-informed, just following the herd, mistaken, plain deluded, and will have changed their minds by the next week....

 

i don't even read ur post after the first. let me guess blah blah blah of bunch of irrevelent ****?

 

:| this sport is usually followedd by men... go cry to your wife or girlfriend about it.... maybe boyfriend??

 

This is a shame because I think he does have a big future, if he goes to the gym corrects those amatuer mistakes he made and practice more in lower caliber fights before making a run for the title. Hes got real good speed and skills, but he has bad habits that a world class trainer could correct. Definitely wont happen though as Shaw wants to recoup his investment.

 

if u actually follow sports. then there will be talks like this. But since you suck dicks, i don't expect u to understand my point is.

 

If he fights every fight like he fought some of the rounds towards the end then I think he has potential to be something special.. He's VERY fast.. and his reflexes are unbelievable..

You need to bear in mind that it was his first time fighting a ranked fighter.. it was away from home in a one sided atmosphere.. he was admittedly nervous.. and yet still alot of people think he won against a world champion..

he has the potential and talent.. he's still young and very inexperienced..

 

You forget that you have to be IN POSITION to throw a "short compact hook" WHILE Abraham throws his bomb at you. Abraham can vary his punches when he throws them, depending on what they do. So he mixes looping rights with straight rights or half uppercuts when he sees the opponent in the position. He also throws the looping left as his 3rd punch to finish a combo, and the first two already guarantee they at least connected to your gloves and put you off balance. To throw a SHORT hook when Abraham throws a bomb, you either stay in range of his left hook and get blasted, or you simply CAN'T throw a SHORT punch as you're too far away to connect on him when he is too far to connect on you. Unless you have elastic arms or a 10" reach advantage. What you mean is the russian manouvre of leaning far back out of the arc of a hook, jumping / shuffling into your own long hand after it flew by, like Klitschko does. But that is hardly a short punch, and it depends on terrific timing, and a long reach. Abraham uses the first two punches of his combos to make sure the looping hand either connects, or the opponent leant out of his reach so they cannot counter. It's really his safety measure to make sure they have a hard, hard time countering him without risking to stop that left with their teeth.

BTW, a couple of his opponents really managed to hit him back over that long hand, Simon for example did it afaik. However, they are that occupied with avoiding the long hand after they got grazed by the first two punches, they hardly manage to put much power into that without missing him too. So those who connected only did so with a punch he could take. Bombs are slow, and need some setup, position. There is no fighter who has all those mythical skills in reading Abrahams punches, ducking under them and finding the perfect moment to jump into a powerpunch after 3 punches kept them occupied. He just doesn't exist.

 

you would know wouldn't you. you're part of the trained dogs who barks when froch was swinging at air as if he was going to ko the air.:rofl as hard as those crowds were cheering I thought Dirrell got KO 6 times already.

 

i've been here since 2007.. on another account.. I may not have posted often on it.. but i'm no stranger to ESB.. but I do agree somewhat with what you are saying..

I just can't stand nuthuggery.. and people who say someone won, yet can't give a valid reason as to why..

 

I have waited for the initial flurry of comments to calm down a little post-fight, before adding my own views.

Firstly, it is widely known that I am no fan of Carl Froch. I think he is over-rated, one dimensional and not worthy of pronouncing the name of Joe Calzaghe, never mind call him out of retirement.

That said, I predicted that Froch would dispose of Dirrell within 5 rounds. I expected his power and granite chin to neutralise anything that would be thrown at him, no matter how fast, how frequent and how accurately. So, on that count alone - I was very wrong.

However, Froch won. I hate to say it, but he very obviously won by at least 3 rounds.

See, one thing I didn't expect to see was a supposed American Dream Fighter doing more running, more quickly, than Usain Bolt in a thunderstorm without an umbrella.

I ask any doubters this - how does anyone expect a challenger to come and take the title from a World Champion when the very best they can muster is to prance around a ring for 2 minutes and 40 seconds of every round; and then to throw the odd combination here and there in the remaining 20 seconds before seeking refuge in the third row of the crowd, behind Froch's back or under his arms?

Dirrell was a complete and utter disappointment to me and if that is the best America has to offer then it is a very poor show.

I don't necessarily blame him though, I blame his corner. Who the hell came up with that tactic? Yes, get in an out quickly - but for christs sake look like you have come to fight and not run around all night like a scared kitten. It was, frankly, pathetic.

Skilled he might be, fast too, tricky for certain - but he wasn't doing the sport any favours in that ring and he deservedly lost the decision. I honestly think that if he'd come forward a little more he'd have easily won by virtue of being more aggressive. Froch looked there for the taking at times and in a way I don't think either of the 'deserved' anything out of it.

Cue Kessler, cue a massacre.

 

He reminds me a bit of Dawson albeit harder to hit. Its not just the way he fights, he has that look of a passive non marketable boxer. Although his power seems to be underrated. Like someone said he needs a better trainer.

 

I was going for Frotch but he was clearly beaten. The judges are crazy.

 

Is funny how everyone who claims froch won adds dirrell running behind it. as if boxing deduct points for using ur legs. And then fails to mention about how froch wins and somehow by 3 rounds while getting repeated outlanded every round. Punching is a main judging critrita if you haven't been informed. bring joe calzaghe's name and diss froch doesn't equal a froch won arguement either.

 

Not me, Dirrell out landed and displayed good ring generalmanship, for me he should of got the decision

 

quality post :good