It was close, although I had Froch a two point winner. The main ppoint is that Dirrell bottled out in his big chance. He had the skills to beat Froch but was too scared to use them. When Froch loses it will probably be against a boxer like Dirrell, rather than kessler/Abraham
how dare you not have a pac-mayweather thread!! ban this guy just kidding i am american and i thought froch won....it was a shitty fight but froch chased him all night
you are 100% right .....i picked Dirrell to win based on his skills...which , like you said..didnt use....and he deserved to lose
Many of the rounds had little of merit happening so any score between 8-4 Dirrell and 7-5 Froch could be justified in my opinion. Dirrell's tactics were wrong. If you're going to win a title away from home without dominating you have to do it like David Haye did - by looking in charge and like you're not getting hit and are doing as you please. Dirrell's hitting and running could have been ok, but his constant whingeing and falling down just made it look like he was always under pressure, which is not a good look to give to the judges in a close scrappy fight. It was a performance that showed flashes of promise, but ultimately betrayed immaturity and a lack of strategic thinking.
If he thinks dirrell held then he better hope he never has to fight andre ward. Ward will hold, headbutt and most of all, STAND HIS GROUND AND BEAT THE HELL OUT OF HIM. Dirrell should be sick after watching ward show people how to handle a big slow limited fighter.
Both fighters are guilty. Froch with his dirty tactics and Dirrell for showing too much respect for his power. Neither really did so much to win but I don't see how it could go to Froch because he showed ineffective aggression:huh. I'll try to score this fight myself but the first time I saw it Dirrell landed the cleaner, more effective shots and won it in my opinion. Froch was hitting air most of the times.
Dirrell constantly holding and falling made it look like Froch's aggression was more effective than it otherwise would have been. Had Dirrell stayed on his feet and executed that gameplan (ala Haye) he would have been a handy winner, I suspect. Instead, he made it look like Froch was bossing him around in there.
I thought Froch did display effective aggression. Froch was backing up Dirrell for most of every round, and he scored his best punches when Dirrell was running away with his hands above his head (wtf is that anyhow?!). Froch also controlled the ring, so ring generalship is there too. Dirrell did have the better defense though. Dirrell landed more clean punches, Froch landed more effective punches. IMO, they both landed about the same small amount of good, hurtful shots. The key is that Froch did more in most of the rounds, whereas Dirrell packed all his impressive stuff into the final two rounds. Froch fought dirty by hitting behind the head. Interestingly, you can't even do that unless you're being held or your opponent is leaning over. I put the blame squarely on Dirrell for turning the fight into a shitshow.
True but it was in Froch's hometown. Hell no would Dirrell get the decision even if he did everything right.
Wow that fight was a stinker, noone deserved a W, i couldnt care less who won it, a case could be made for either guy, if i were dirrell i would be disappointed, he was clearly the better boxer but he didnt really do much, even though he could have and he did pretty well when he did engage
I agree it's why Dirrell lost a fight he should have won. I don't have a problem that the ref deducted a point, but when he did it was pretty bad, and the fact that he basically let Froch have his way in terms of the illegal rough stuff and did nothing. The fact that he was frustrated by Dirrell's ***** tactics isn't relevant.
Anyone who scored more then 4 rounds for Froch doesnt know **** about boxing period. 1. Notice how Dirrells stock has risen and Froch's has fallen since the fight. Why? Because one fighter won and one didnt. Let yourself guess who the majority of people thought won 2. Dirrell ran. Dirrell held. Dirrell whatever. Same **** from Froch fans. 3 of the 4 Dirrell spills were from Froch pulling him down from the back of his head, or in one case body slaming him. Dirrell did hold a little to much in a couple rounds, but nothing that was outrageous. It just happened to look worse because of Froch's dirty fighting such has hitting behind the head whenever Dirrell clinched. There was literally one point where Froch actually looked down at Dirrells head and blatantly went for the back of his dome. Which is fair to Froch fans. I mean you arent allowed to slip another fighters punches. The majority of the fight Dirrell fought the perfect fight. Outboxed Froch from the outside, and in the championship rounds put it on him. 3. You can count the number of power punches Froch landed on 1 hand. Literally. Thats why Froch fans like to talk about effective aggression(which how can it be effective if Froch struggled to land anything?). They certainly cant argue clean punching, which was Dirrell wide. Trust me, these are the same dudes who thought Hatton was fighting Floyd close because he was following him around the ring. You dont score points for coming forward. 4. Cobbler, David UK and the rest of the Froch hoard, said that Froch would walk through Dirrell and knock him out early. What we saw was a green fighter, only 18-0 professional fights, nearly KO a fighter with 26 fights and a wealth more experience. And made him look more amatuerish then recently believed.
That pretty much sums it up. It was a pathetic showing by BOTH fighters. Dirrell ran all night but landed the cleaner and harder blows. Froch followed him around the ring like a zombie. Totally clueless about how to cut a ring off. Swinging widely and missing by a mile most of the time. I never want to watch that fight ever again.