Froch vs Eubank?

In retrospect Eubank was just a ****ing idiot for not jumping to 175 from 160.

his team seemed to have no idea about how to make weight properly or what weight class would be most beneficial in that sense.

 

Eubank for me had the agility to move in and out of range against longer-armed fighters and bamboozle them. He'd of done this to Virgil Hill, taking Virgil's jab away with his head slips and using fast feet and quick flurries ala Rocchigiani fight. At 175 his strength would've been frightening. Jeff Harding would've been left a facial mess.

 

Watson put on 7lbs of muscle in 12 weeks. Eubank had lost 19lb of muscle in four days before the previous.

 

And Michael fell short with it a lot early doors, due to that severe ring rust of course.

 

That depends on your definition I guess, there where clearly much better fighters out there. He didnt beat Benn at 168, it was a draw, and didnt fight Rocchi in period of time that you mentioned. That leaves Malinga and Holmes. Malinga faced many good fighters and lost to all of them and Holmes was ko'd by Van Horn earlier. Eubank didnt fight Nunn or Barkley to show that he was he the man to beat during the period you mentioned.

The fact is that during his carreer he moved around the same weight divisions as Jones, Toney, Hopkins, Kalambay, McCallum, Barkley and Nunn but didnt fight any of them. If he had faced some of them it might help people to estimate how good he was, as it is now we are left guessing based on how he looked against guys like Jarvis, Esset, Sherry and others of the kind.

 

But Nunn or Barkley didn't fight Eubank or opposition as good as Eubank's. Van Horn and Cordoba were poor - Lindell Holmes (avoided by Nunn and Barkley) was a much better fighter, as James Toney attested to at the time. Rocchigiani was a better super-middle than Nunn.

 

Holmes was at the end of the road when he fought Eubank, and better at 160 anyway.

He did redeem himself for the embarassing out-of-shape exhaustion stoppage against Van Horn with a good performance against Eubank, but had nothing left after it.

 

Absolutely spot on. Interspersed with good fights against the likes of Watson, Benn and Collins (where, after all, he wasn't always dominant) was a lot of cherry picking and Eubank was sometimes the beneficiary of helpful WBO judging to keep the Eubank-Hearn gravy train on track.

I've always felt that Watson's outclassing at the hands of McCallum was probably a good yardstick to judge the level at which Eubank - Benn - Watson really stood in terms of top, top world class.

I've always felt that Watson, Benn & Eubank were a (perhaps small) notch below the likes of McCallum, Toney & probably especially RJJ.

Furthermore, at his best Herol Graham was imo better than Watson, Benn and Eubank too, but Graham's best was probably before the other 3 Brits had fully emerged.

 

Eubank proved his ability in winning the first five rounds of the first Watson fight in cruise mode. Watson\McCallum was even after five.

As for Graham, Eubank knocked him cold in Graham's own gym.

 

im sure that's incorrect, Froch to my knowledge has been down twice, once against Taylor where he might have been off balance and once against Groves where he rushed in with his feet crossed.

 

McCallum played with him for two rounds, Watson's ring-rusted timing way off. But once he finds his range a bit, Watson wins the third and fourth rounds clearly, forcing McCallum back.