Froch vs Goves round 7 revising history

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Will, Feb 14, 2014.


  1. Will

    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am fed up of hearing McCraken etc say that round 7 etc Froch was getting on top.

    Go back and watch round 7.

    Froch lands a couple of half decent body shots but on the whole is tired messy an keeps looking to the corner throughout what is actually one of Groves better rounds.

    Froch takes some huge right hands during the round and nearly all of his upstairs wok is caught on Groves' gloves.

    The first half of round 8 can be used as evidence of Foch coming back in to it. But as a round as a whole its still 50-50 as (As Jim Watt for once correctly stated) Froch's best punches of the round were illegal. Froch is clearly rocked back twice in the round once right at the end with a huge left hook.

    Anyone who includes round 7 as any evidence of Froch coming back into the fight needs to go back and watch the round. Big round for Groves!!!
     
  2. RoughD

    RoughD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tht was the story for most the fight mate
    Groves bossed it
     
  3. Will

    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.

    I agree in round 8 froch was coming back into it though he still got staggered there.

    Round 7 was just a big round for Groves.
     
  4. lirva

    lirva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well the problem with boxing forums by and large is you get biased fans commenting like RoughD. I'm not sure about the thread starter.

    If we look at the footage, everyone agrees that the stoppage was premature, no doubt. The thing is, Groves was starting to take flush shots to the chin in the seconds before the stoppage and was hurt and getting more hurt. His legs tell it all. He's all over the place and there was plenty of time left in the round.

    It's clear who the fans are and biased guys with an agenda. I'm just looking at the facts of the situation and reporting what I see. Froch taking Groves best shots and still there to hurt him badly and have his legs all over the place and about to be stopped.

    The bookies are the ones who have to put their money where they mouth is and they agree with me, installing Froch as a pretty big favourite as they think he will get the KO in the championship rounds again.

    If Groves comes in fighting much more conservatively and doesn't blow himself out this time, he can win.
     
  5. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Much like Groves fans suggesting that Froch never landed a punch until round 9, yet Groves face was a mess.
    From round 6 onwards, Groves was slowing, he was still landing good shots, but only in spurts. Some people score every scoring punch, whilst others only seem to see the big shots.
    Take your pick.
     
  6. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People are trying to rewrite the fight and keep pushing back the round where froch started coming back into it. I saw a post earlier saying Froch started coming back into in round 5 :lol:

    The truth is groves dominated completely for 7 rounds, round 8 was a pick em round and froch won what we saw of round 9.
     
  7. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Groves marks up easily, we all know that.
     
  8. Ol' Bub

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  9. Will

    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Groves took 1 clean shot everything else was cuffing.

    And this has nothing to do with round 7 which is what the thread is about.
     
  10. Will

    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is my thoughts exactly.

    Yeah froch showed more from round 5 but still got bashed up and wobbled in rounds 6 and 7.

    I also agree with the poter above who says fans make out like Groves wasn't hit up till round 8. He was and occassionally with a good shot, but they were few and far between.

    And Groves does mark easily, this is no indictaion of how the fight went.

    Henry cooper would have lost every fight he ever had if it was based on how your face looked after.
     
  11. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What I find helps is taking off the commentary while re-watching it. The first time I watched it I thought Groves totally dominated Froch and Froch did little until the 8th round. I think it was more down to my disbelief that a guy like Froch could be put to sword so much by a new guy.

    Now there is no denying that Groves was ahead by quite a few rounds, but Froch was working consistently through the rounds and was hitting it's target, while not flush, they were still hitting Groves and slowly grinding him down.

    Froch is a very tough fighter, not the most explosive, but his constant work rate will eventually take it's toll on most fighters and Groves was one of them. Groves was pulling off with all the eye catching hay makers, but Froch was hitting, cutting off, roughing up and grappling Groves consistently.

    Fighting someone like Froch, you need to fight a full 12 rounds, anything less will get you in trouble. This time there is no hiding or excuses from either boxer.
     
  12. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep the Groves cheerleading from the commentators was absolutely disgraceful in that fight. The casuals simply lapped it up and seemed to believe Groves dominated every single round up to the stoppage. If you actually know a bit about boxing and the subtleties that go on during a fight, you can see that Froch works when in close, lands some good shots to the body and had tagged Groves head a fair few times too. Of course all the eye catching shots were the Groves right hands, but Froch was always in the fight. Yes he was losing rounds but he was in there competing, taking shots but still working and trying to impose himself.

    His hard work, experience and durability paid dividends later in the fight as we can see.
     
  13. J.BULLA

    J.BULLA Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch won the 5 th, and the 8th but that was still a close round

    The 7th was clear for Groves
     
  14. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree. I was surprised at how much Froch did in the fight before the 7th round. He has a way of slowly bludgeoning an opponent and wearing him down and that's exactly what he was doing to Groves. He is very experiencing at dragging a boxer into a war of attrition and Groves was feeling the effects by the 8th/9th. I don't think Groves was on his way out on the 9th, but it would have been very difficult for him to last another 3 rounds against a fighter who was coming into a second wind.

    Did Groves have another wind or was he gassed? The second fight will put all these questions to bed.
     
  15. Solarse

    Solarse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh have we uncovered another weakness, surely not on God Groves