What do you mean by skills and fundamentals? If by skills you mean offsensive arsenal outside of the jab, then you are mistaken by thinking Pavlik has the edge there. Froch has far greater punch variation and I'd even argue he's the more effective and accurate puncher. Fundamentals? I assume you mean things like footwork, appreciation of distance, ring generalship? Again, Froch wins this battle, even handier than the last one I mentioned. Has Pavlik ever outboxed anyone on the back foot? Not that I can think of. The rest I agree with, but like I said earlier, Froch just has too much for Pavlik at this point. Anyone thinking Kelly could win going on recent form is delusional!
opps. just realized it was ademak, not kessler. haha. jesus. sorry fellas i was drinkin last night and mistook the white guys. dont i feel dumb
this is a pick em fight though. if not frotch, who would you like to see pavlik face after saturday? hes looking to step up the competiton, and there are alot of good names out there. of course he could fight Bute. Butes people might take that fight cuz pavlik hasnt fought anyone significant on his comeback yet.
the only people sayin bute had ANY advantages were crazy. bute was nothing but a hype job. who the **** BESIDES frotch did he fight that is of note? Mcgee? hahaha. please. Pavlik is on another level. Lets not forget he only has two losses and they are to TWO TOP P4P guys in Sergio and Bernard.
And what about his wins ? Besides chinny Jermaine Taylor who got clowned by everybody. There is nobody else, Pavlik's resume is as poor as Bute's if not poorer. :hi:
That's bollocks, it was a very close fight. What do you mean "can't defeat Kessler", I love Kessler and I had Froch ahead by a point or so rescoring the fight.
He is as deserving now as Froch was pre SS when Froch was calling out Kelly who was fighting at MW. Froch was begging for a big fight then. Kelly still has name recognition. In the end, this is still a business.
Hermit keeps coming with his ******ed arguments. :thumbsup Pre-SS Froch was a world champion dumbass, he already had two big fights against Taylor and Pascal. Also he has never wanted Pavlik as much as you're pretending he had. He always talked about Calzaghe, Kessler. He may have said "Pavlik" once or twice but you're acting like he was chasing that drunk ******* all day long ... Now again, you're a ****** nuthugger so obviously you take those shits right from your smelly ass. And finally, since you always come with this stupid argument, did Pavlik give him the fight by the time ? => No. Why should Froch give him the fight now. I know your scared ass won't reply but it's just to expose your stupidity (although I'm pretty sure the whole forum is aware of your level of nuthuggery).