Froch wants a $1 million guaranteed purse to fight Taylor in America

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  1. Hermit

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    Probably a reasonable assessment. Poor guy finally gets his title and he is like a kid showing off his 'certificate of participation'. People pat him on the head and say "How nice." and go about their business. He is finding that after all he is done and thought, it wasn't the ticket to the big time he thought it was.
     
  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Unfortunately for your hopes, that would involve Taylor actually fighting him.
     
  3. David UK

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    Haha.....and all the signs have been that Taylor wants no part of Froch:yep
     
  4. ralphc

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    Froch has a belt. He is entitled to the lion's share of the purse. If the challenger wants the champion, albeit paper champion, to travel he has to be prepared to pay for it. If I were Froch's manager I wouldn't settle for less than a million for an optional fight in a foreign country.
     
  5. DStew

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    I completely understand the nature of a mandatory title defense and what would happen were Froch to withdraw.

    But like you said, if this goes to purse bids and Hennessy wins, the fight is probably as good as dead. If Froch wants $1 million guaranteed to fight in the US, you can bet that Taylor wants AT LEAST the same to fight in the UK (if he would even agree to it), probably more. You and I both know that ITV probably doesn't have the resources to pay him enough to go to Nottingham, meaning that the only way for this fight to happen is if a deal is made prior to the deadline for Carl to come to the U.S.

    DiBella's already made an offer based on Showtime's budget for Taylor, an offer that probably won't get any better before Friday, since his hands are tied by what the networks are willing to pay. So if his offer isn't good enough NOW, it's not going to be any better on Friday.

    If Froch really intends to make the Taylor fight happen, he has to work within the confines of the situation and compromise a little. Same goes for Taylor, obviously.
     
  6. Hermit

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    And Froch has Taylor's answer on that now, doesn't he? Taylor seems willing to defer a belt for more money at the moment. Remember, it is the WBC that seems to need Taylor. He will bring them higher cuts than Froch which is why they wanted him to fight for the belt his first time out of the gate at 168.
     
  7. DStew

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    This is a good assessment and reflects my thoughts on the situation.

    People can sit here and bicker about whose ducking who and throw accusations at either guy for being unreasonable or greedy, but the more I read about this fight, the more I begin to think that the money just isn't there right now. At least not enough to make both fighters happy.

    $1 million isn't unreasonable but it might be unrealistic given the circumstances.

    And in this case I disagree that Froch's belt entitles him to the lion's share of the purse. Unfortunately boxing is a business, and more about the bottom line than it is about belts. Fighters are commodities. Usually the bigger commodity is the champion, but sometimes he isn't. In this case Froch's got a decent local following behind him but on the world stage, he is just the guy that beat another unproven prospect for a vacant belt. Taylor is a former champion with two victories over an ATG and a draw with a likely HOF fighter who is accustomed to getting a few million dollars when he steps in the ring.

    Right now, honestly I think both guys are over-estimating their own worth a bit, with Froch thinking being a titleholder makes him a superstar all of a sudden, and Taylor living in the past a bit and relying on wins from three years ago to get him a decent payday in 2009.
     
  8. ralphc

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    Froch had better get on the ball and make some kind of deal. At some point the WBC will force a purse bid with God knows who as his mandatory. He will still get the biggest piece of the pie, but it might just be a rather small pie.
     
  9. sdsfinest22

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    Other than Kessler I think alot of those fighters at 168 are just hype...Bute got his a$$ whooped by Andrade I thought and Taylor hits harder than Andrade...Taylor is no joke...
     
  10. sdsfinest22

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    Than the Mgr wouldn't make any money....you gotta sell the fight to make the money..NOBODY KNOWS WHO FROCH IS!
     
  11. Bodysnatcher

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  12. Hermit

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    Confirms what we already seemed to know. Taylor has a Date, a Venue and a Budget that he plans on sticking to. I'd love to know the terms Froch is turning down though. No one seems to know that as far as I've seen?
     
  13. imp4pdabest

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    I've already come to reality that this fight isn't gonna happen. Neither fighter is willing to go to the other fighters country to fight.
     
  14. Machine

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    Some of you make some valid points, but lets get one thing clear: Froch is not a high risk low reward fight for Taylor. Froch is probably the weakest champion since Christian Sanavia. He is a low risk and moderate reward fight (given the WBC title) for Taylor. And for those saying that it is a reasonable demand from Froch but an unrealistic one: an unrealistic demand is an unreasonable one you clowns, it essentially means the same thing in this context. How could an unrealistic expectation be reasonable, by definition an unrealistic expectation is unreasonable.
     
  15. BadJuju83

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    Froch will go to the states, preferably LV or MSG, but he would go elsewhere. It's the money that will stop it.

    If he was offered a million to fight in AC he would, no doubt. They're just no money in it, and whatever money the can drum up, both will want the lions share. That's what will stop the fight.