See where you guys come from but Carl is different to our modern day fighters who now mostly like to have one hard fight then a soft touch. Carl models himself on the older era of fighter and i think that's why people acknowledge him more for his run of tough fights. He's a breath of fresh air in this sport.
No he's not that skilled. He is a very athletic fighter, but shows little to no adaptability, little punching range, little defence. He's a good fighter who relies on his natural athleticism to get his shots off, but there is little skill there. In fact, it only shows up how overrated Chad Dawson was that Pascal managed to be winning pretty handily until the ending. In fact, Pascal, a low output and sporadic offensive force at 175, managed to pretty much boss the fight. That's because Dawson is even more tentative, low output and basic. Regardless of the Hopkins fights, Pascal showed little before that either in terms of 'skill' (which I would file under jab, ring generalship, upper body movement....but of course 'skilled' is entirely subjective :good) A good win for Froch? Definitely. But that doesn't mean Pascal was a very skilled fighter. It doesn't mean he's **** either, which it seems that AtBerry is implying Froch on the other hand, bossed the latter part of their fight which his awkward, angled jab, and I felt it was the first fight that showed his range.
DEFINITELY!!! :good But that's pretty much my point Mand'; maybe AtBerry is implying (and it's fair IMO) that the reason Froch gets so much kudos for this run is that, in this day and age, it's fairly out of the ordinary. In other eras, it's not too extraordinary, and may well not have garnered as much attention :good Can I just say I'm merely trying to stop At being flamed I agree with most of you, Froch has done really, really well for himself, and I'm far less extreme in regards with dissecting his opposition. All of his opponents had different attributes they brought to the table, and more often than not, Carl gave a good account of himself.
Naz's run is better though IMO. People forget he faced a Ring top 5-rated fighter at 118 as well. Naz gets underrated nowadays IMO.
Yep it is, I just think At seems to have issues with Froch or his opponents and the modern day era of SMW's. He totally discredits Johnson,Pascal yet Lacy didn't get called just an athlete. Poor thread IMO.
the fact is that comparing him to boxers from the past is pointless. Froch has fought every possible decent fighter there is around in his weight class, sure he hasn't fought ward and bute yet but that is purely because you can only box so much a year, He'll fight ward and he'll want to fight bute after that. He can only fight the fighters that are here at the minute. If he was about in eubanks days he would have tried to fight the best then as well. it's all good you coming out with weak excuses as to why everyone at super middle is floored but as I said, he can only fight the fights that are available today. what i'm saying is. Who gives a **** if someones run is better, It would be almost impossible for froch to have a better run than he has, how could he improve on it exactly? Obviously he could have beat kessler. But how could he improve on the opposition he has fought? who would you have put him in with that is better.
naz gets underrated anyway due to his defeat to barrera (the manner of the defeat) and then pretty much just walking away.
I understand people have 'done a froch' in the past ie fighting good fighters back to back. But the lad has been on an incredible run. Pascal (future LHW Champ), Taylor (who beat B-Hop twice), Dirrell ( good prospect, totally unlike a previous Froch Opponent), Kessler who has only lost twice, the big hitting Abe (who was the favourite going in let me remind you, and Froch wins every round), Glen Johnson who is a massive SMW and a crafty veteran, and next Ward, a possible future superstar.
Amir Khan's run of opponents is equal to Froch's run. Khan has also won all of his fights and won more convincingly. He also did it without the Super Six.