Froch's back-to-back fights, who had better?

I like Khan, but Kotelnyk was awful, you can't compare that to Pascal. Look at what they have each done since.

 

I don't think many overrate and go mad over Carl's wins but in this modern day era when guys like Ward wanna fight at home. When across the world from domestic to p4p want to have one hard fight then a batch of soft touches i think Carl's run should be respected because he quite easily could of went down the Calzaghe route of defending against shocking opponents for the first part of his reign.

 

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people criticising him should consider this, imagine what boxing would be like if everyone fought the biggest fights and the best they could


Its called the 1950s

 

Quite right. I would far rather have a good-but-flawed fighter fighting as though he believes he is an ATG, than have a potential ATG fighting as though he needs to cherry pick opponents to protect his record and mask his vulnerabilities. Froch's attitude is probably his single biggest asset in terms of building a fanbase - hope he's making some good money from it.

 

He may have done so without the Super Six tournament. People keep failing to mention this.

Robin Reid fought the best.
Kessler has fought the best.


Froch has fought them back to back because of the Super Six. The Ward fight could have fallen through if it was outside of the tournament. AA may have not waited for Froch outside of the Super Six.

Froch never chose Pascal, he had to to fight him for the vacant belt. Pascal was nothing at the time.

 

Froch could of opted for the easier route and went for the WBO title but he wanted the green belt. He also fought Taylor outside of the super six and may i hasten to add Taylor is even when shot a damn site better then Lacy as a fighter. He's fought 3 fights away from home in the super six and it's all been back to back. No soft touches the fella deserves credit.

 

Like threatening to pull out of Super Six if he had to fight AA in Germany?

Telling Bunce on the Setanta Boxing Hour that he won't fight Calzaghe at 175. 'Cause he looks big at the weight'.

Froch is beginning to win me over. However, people continuing to overstate what he is doing still annoys me. Froch is doing good stuff, but I can see the hype as well.

Look at what Barker's doing this weekend. Froch hasn't taken a challenge like this yet. He's gone close, but not quite matched it.

 

Lennox Lewis has the best resume of any british boxer, back to back is a hard one.

Froch is up there, but he dosent dominate his opponents.

I felt Dirrell won that fight, and he lost to Kessler. Stil he has beaten Johnson, Abraham, and Pascal.


Froch is competition is better than Calzaghe already....and when you think Joe is more talented then this is why i dont think Joe is as great as people make out.

 

Nonsense.

 

Calzaghe fighting Lacy was not choosing the easy option. Also, Calzaghe signed to fight Steve Collins for the WBO belt.

Froch does deserve credit. I just feel some people go too far.

 

Never said it was easy option but At didn't say anything bad about him yet belittles likes of Pascal who is a lot better fighter...

 

Joe took 4 risks -

Stepping up for a title fight with Eubank

Facing a dangerous Lacy

Facing Kessler

Facing Hopkins


That is pants in all honesty. He was at the top of the super-middle division for yonks, where are all the tough risky fights?

 

I'm not overstating it, I just said generally that I would prefer a brave fighter who takes on some challenges to one who is more talented but plays is safer.

I don't think for a moment that Froch genuinely intended to pull out of the Super 6 at that point; it was a positioning interview, the sort that sportsmen give all the time, all part of the negotiating process. I don't think that Tyson genuinely intended to eat Lennox Lewis' babies, either...

Froch was a SMW at the time, still establishing himself at the top level within the weight, he had a long-running beef with Calzaghe, wanted to prove who was the best SMW, so I think he was just making plain that he did not want to go up to a higher weight division that would suit Calzaghe at that point more than it would Froch. That said, I don't think that the negotiation for that fight ever got to much of an advanced stage - had it been offered at LHW or nothing, I think Froch would have taken it. People say what they say at one point, then quite often do something else when push comes to shove.

So I don't think that two quotes from interviews really have as much relevance as what Froch has done in the ring, and in the current era of protected fighters he is on a more challenging run than many fighters, and is not the most talented of his era, so for me that deserves some respect. I am not going overboard, it was a simple point.

Ftr I didn't like Froch at all when he was British champion, he used to wind us up with all the ego while being unproven. But to be fair to him, he won us over as he has done what he can to back it up.

 

And Calzaghe was a pace and volume fighter, so just the right sort of style to fight Hopkins, and a lot of people already said at the time that Lacy might not be all that.

I was a big Calzaghe fan, went to some of the fights and watched the rest, but context is everything in sport, and Froch's resumé looks like being much greater than Calzaghe's once we all look back in 20 years' time. That is not a comment on talent, it is a comment on the career as a whole.