From 1950 to Today, Which 10 Fights Do You Most Wish/Hope Exist on Film?

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  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of the fights thought not to exist on film, which would you most like to see?

    Let's limit it to say from 1950 to today, because there would be too many to mention before that time.

    I'm hoping to get a rough indication of the fights we most want to see that we have missed out on in the last 60 years.
     
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  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Sweet,

    I will do one for the heavyweights

    1. Jersey Joe Walcott KO 3 Harold Johnson

    The rest:

    Rocky Marciano-Roland Lastarza I
    Rocky Marciano-Ezzard Charles I- Rounds 2, 3, 5, 7 , 8 , 9, 11, 12, 13, 14
    Sonny Liston KO 3 Zora Folley
    Sonny Liston KO 3 Nino Valdes
    Nino Valdes W 10 Ezzard Charles
    Archie Moore W 15 Nino Valdes II
    Sonny Liston TKO 6 Mike Dejohn
    Cleveland Williams D 10 Eddie Machen
    Archie Moore TKO 9 Bob Baker
    Joe Louis W 10 Jimmy Bivins
    Harold Johnson W 10 Clarence Henry


    I forgot some. There's a start.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Here are some picks limiting myself to one mention per fighter.

    Charley Burley WPTS10 Pilar Bastidas
    Archie Moore WPTS10 Bert Lytell
    Yoshio Shirai WPTS15 Terry Allen
    Williw Pep KO5 Charley Riley
    Dick Tiger TKO5 Terry Downes
    George Costner WPTS10 Ike Williams (note - George fought KG the same year. Just saying.)
    Jimmy Carter WPTS15 Loro Salas
    Eddie Perkins WPTS15 Duilio Loi
    Sonny Liston WPTS8 Johnny Summerlin
    Lloyd Marshall WPTS10 Tommy Farr
     
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  4. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carter's 3rd fight with Salas (a 15 round UD win) is available.
     
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  5. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice picks guys.

    I'll try and do one just off the top of my head. I've heard rumours of some of these existing, but I'm adopting a believe it when I see it policy:

    Jose Napoles vs. Eddie Perkins
    Nicolino Locche vs. Ismael Laguna
    Luis Rodriguez vs. Curtis Cokes III
    Duilio Loi vs. Carlos Ortiz III
    Joey Archer vs. Dick Tiger
    Duilio Loi vs. Eddie Perkins III
    Esteban Dejesus vs. Antonio Gomez
    Joey Giardello vs. Billy Graham III
    Joey Giardello vs. Gene Fullmer
    Howard Winstone vs. Jose Legra I
     
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  6. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would give up my right hand if I can see Marciano Charles 1 the complete fight lol.


    Intros to all 15 rounds of hell, and the end.
     
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  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You greedy *******s, isn't half a fight enough? :D

    I too would love to see the whole fight.
     
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  8. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Lots of good ones mentioned.Just a few quick ones that come to mind...

    Napoles vs Eddie Perkins
    Hagler vs Kevin Finnegan both fights
    Bhorkorsor vs Betulio Gonzalez and Salavarria
    Alfonso Lopez vs Hilario Zapata
    Complete canto/Jofre title fight collection...yeah i'm cheating

    And they probably wouldn't be the most interesting fights, but i'd like to see Buchanan vs Velasquez and kalambay vs Duane Thomas for scoring purposes.It would have been quite some feat if kalambay actually managed to ge himself legitimately outpointed by Thomas.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's ruddy good news. I actually meant the first one where Carter schooled him but was supposedly in trouble in the last round, but I didn't know the third one was available, and I like that.

    Have you seen it?
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Christ, I was just snooping on boxrec, and Carter and Salas actually met four times. Why one earth would you fight Salas a fourth time if you didn't have to? I got to get that fight.
     
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  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Mcgrain,

    good one with Liston-Summerlin. Which one though I or II?


    I would rather see Liston pummeling Dejohn, Valdes, or Folley personally. Its a shame some of listons best performances are not captured on film for highlight reels.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'd like to see Liston when he still has a shadow of that prison-learning on him, get an idea what he evolved from.

    I think at a push I would go for the first one because it's a wee bit earlier, but either really.
     
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  13. red cobra

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    Clemente Sanchez vs Kuniaki Shibata
    Jose Napoles vs Carlos Hernandez
    Arnold Taylor vs Romeo Anaya I & II (possibly the most exciting wars no one has ever seen on film)
    Joey Archer vs Sugar Ray Robinson (it may exist)
    Both Fighting Harada vs Eder Jofre fights
    Both Eddie Machen vs Zora Folley fights
     
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  14. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In addition to some others listed,

    Galindez--Ahumada series of fights
     
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  15. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Both the Harada Jofre fights have been around for a long time and are up on youtube if you want to check them out, red.
     
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