From 1990 and up what WW has a great chang'e at beating Hearn's

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  1. imp4pdabest

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    Trust me, he outworks hearns and gets a UD
     
  2. Sweet Pea

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    First of all, Mayweather at WW was not quicker, nor would his smaller stature ever allow him to get off first or effectively counter Hearns. A bigger, even better defensive counter puncher in Benitez was hardly able to get anything going offensively against Hearns, though his defense was exceptrional. Fact is, Hearns was a nightmare for any pure boxer up to MW, he was the ultimate standup boxer, an amazing blend of size, speed, and skill in the ring. He was like the Wilt Chamberlain of boxing in the Welterweight division. His sniper like accuracy, crushing power, great defensive reflexes, and countering ability would make it impossible for the natural 130 pounder in Mayweather to get anything going. The jab to the body would be countered by the straight right. The left hook by the counter left, if not the stiff jab. Mayweather would find it almost impossible to close the distance without risking far too much fire power than he's willing to risk against.

    The same is true of a guy like Whitaker against Hearns. Just too small, and at a stylistic disadvantage.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    There isn't a chance in hell a guy who fought defensively against De La Hoya is going to outwork or outbox Hearns. Nor will he be able to handle his height, reach, or stunning jab. Floyd is one of the worst choices to beat Hearns among recent Welterweights.
     
  4. imp4pdabest

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    Definetely disagree. You know its a mental game with PBF when he gets in the ring. I think PBF can handle his height without a problem. If I said outwork, that was a mistake, but yes I do think he'll outbox him
     
  5. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thats a bold statement. have you even seen hearns fight? the guy was 6'1 with a '78 reach, and had the brain of a master boxer who was able to keep slicksters, like leonard and benitez, at the end of his jab. now combine this boxing ability with one shot KO power and comparable hand speed to mayweather, what do you get? one of the greatest freaks in the history of the sport. look at how leonard and hagler beat hearns near or around his prime. is mayweather willing to weather the storm? because there is no way he is outboxing hearns.
     
  6. dave82

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    Good lord! I am not going to bother responding to this. Reading the above response was on-par with a severe night of heavy drinking. It gave me a headache, made me sick in the gut, and destroyed too many brain cells. TAXI!!!!!!
     
  7. TheGreat

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    PBF is too small for Hearns, I could easily see him beating a slow limited overrated guy in Margo BUT Hearns would be just to much for him IMO, it's not that PBF isn't skilled enough, he is but Hearns is very skilled himself and he is alot bigger.
     
  8. imp4pdabest

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    Now turn your P.O.V. around. Mayweather is a guy who frustrates you and dominates you mentally, ALWAYS ahead of you mentally. Makes you pay for EVERY mistake in the ring. Speed & athleticism out of this world. And though he hasnt fought anyone like Hearns, he's proven he could handle bigger guys throughout the majority of his career. Yes, I do think that he is a better boxer and would be able to be more successful. I'm not saying he would completely outbox the guy at all. But PBF against anyone, I gotta pick PBF. PBF was THAT GOOD!
     
  9. elchivito

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    sorry dog, but even though pbf would be a tough cookie to crack for any fighter, old ass dlh was using a pretty good jab on him. just check out tommy's fights with benitez, duran, or hagler and not only did tommy hit hard but he hit fast, just as fast as pbf. and not only would pbf have to worry about tommy's jab, but the unforgiving right hand, probably one of the best of all time, right behind it. also remember floyd had problems when he fights fighters that are as fast as him, like with zab and dlh. no way tommy loses. pbf could go toe to toe or box with tommy, he still loses. and pleez don't compare chico RIP with tommy, cuz the only similarity might be height and that's about it.
     
  10. imp4pdabest

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    If you think that he struggled with Judah or DLH, you're off. He respected Judahs speed, but Oscar was a different story. Are you telling me that Hearns wouldn't have to worry about Zab's speed?
     
  11. pmfan

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    Hearns could beat any welterweight not nicknamed Sugar Ray. And actually, he beat SRL in their rematch, although they called it a draw (and it was above the weight). Hearns was a great fighter. He was devastating at welter and would have beaten up PBF, Cotto, Paul Williams. Margarito's beard would have been tested as well. That's how hard Tommy hit at welter.
     
  12. imp4pdabest

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    I laugh when guys compare Williams to Hearns
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    :rofl
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    That is exactly what I'm telling you, as Hearns was just as fast off the gun and his height, reach, and skills were far greater, as was his power. He'd knock Zab flat out in a round or two.

    You're perceptions are way off base, probably because you haven't enough experience watching and analyzing the fighters.
     
  15. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hearns size and accurate lightning jab would make judah's speed a non-factor, and KO him earlier than tszyu did. the question should be, would judah or floyd be worried about hearns speed.