From an objective view point. If Manny Pacquaio did beat Mayweather

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  1. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Would he crack the top 5 of all time? The top 10?

    Let's be clear, I think Mayweather dominates him. This is Boxing and stranger things have happened.

    I rank Pacqauio slightly higher than Mayweather right now, because of what he's done at lower weights. The Cotto win is also very impressive and if he beats Bradley, that will also be a terrific win, his best since Miguel.

    If Pacquaio could manage to beat Mayweather, (The most skilled and dominant fighter this era has seen.) what number would he jump to on your ATG list?

    Vice Versa, if Mayweather beat Pacqauio, where would he jump too?


    Objective discussion please. I don't want bitching.
     
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  2. illwill007

    illwill007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think so. Pacquiao will definitely move up a lot, but top 5 that would we gotta move duran down a notch or 2. Top 20 for sure. Top 15 maybe.
     
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  3. leaduppercut

    leaduppercut Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather should be top 10 at least regardless if he fights pacquiao
     
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  4. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Beat Floyd then clean out his division and I will think about it. Even then you would have to take someone out of the top 5 who is more accomplished.
     
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  5. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    for beating Mayweather who he waited for to get out of his prime?

    Dont forget Manny just lost to Marquez
     
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  6. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    No!

    The same Pacquiao who got schooled by Morales and Marquez is possibly top 5 all time?
     
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  7. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't forget I'm on the Mayweather side of the fence.


    Theoretically, you don't think he'd crack the top ten with a win over Mayweather?

    ON PAPER, his resume would be something out of this world, even though 90% of us know that there's certain circumstances which taint a fair few post DLH wins. His performance at lower weights is the most impressive part of his career for me.

    Yes Mayweather is out of his prime, so is Pacqauio so I'd argue that it evens out. Same goes for Floyd beating Pac.

    Howabout Mayweather? Can he crack the top 10 by beating Pacquaio?
     
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  8. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    no emmanuel isn't that good
     
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  9. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Think he'd need Pacqauio and Martinez to crack the top 10?
     
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  10. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think he should break top 10.
     
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  11. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hell no. Floyd has never cleaned out a division before. Also Manny isn't that good for him to make that big of a leap.
     
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  12. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    Personally, I don't waste my time with ATG rankings, I think they're pointless.

    Let me put it to you this way though, do you really think that Pacquiao deserves to be ranked alongside the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Muhammed Ali, Duran, Willie Pep and even fighters like Hagler, Hearns, Lennox Lewis, Monzon and others
     
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  13. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes. Look at his career as a whole, he's inside my top 20.
     
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  14. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Sexy Sergio would really give him a boost. Floyd did some very good work at the lower weights, but he could only beat what was available to him. There was no opportunity to face a Tijuana.

    Beating Sexy Sergio would be otherworldly. How I see it at this point is whoop roid to shut the world up and get paid, but Sexy Sergio is going above and beyond to enhance the legacy
     
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  15. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The top 10 is incredibly hard to break into, so, no, I'd say he wouldn't.

    Greb, Robinson, Armstrong, Duran, Charles, Langford, Ali, Benny Leonard, Ross and Moore have unbelievable records. If Pacquiao beat Mayweather, I think it'd put him ahead of the likes of Williams, Gavilan and Ortiz and he'd enter the top 20.

    If Mayweather beat Pacquiao, it'd be far and away his best career win. It may not even be Pacquiao's best win.
     
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