From Balco to Boxing: A Sport on the Ropes

Not the only inaccuracy in the article concerning Bute/Pascal.

The author claims they haven't come to an agreement about testing for the fight. This is inaccurate.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/178333-bute-pascal-to-be-randomly-drug-tested

 

Think you are putting 2 & 2 together here and getting 5 in allot of cases. Other than the relationship to Conte pretty much everything else you say has a logical explanation.

• Ward was 20 years old when he turned Pro. Of course he is going to get physically stronger. He is still not exactly a beat either.
• Plenty of promoters don't want there fighter to fight away from home.
• How many fights did Froch have outside of the UK before Taylor?
• Every fighter gets injury's.

 

agree with you here rob, ward has progressed steadily, its not likes packed on weight or muscle, hes solid but he aint a monster

 

Never heard of one from the inside of a headguard before. Have an insight into Ward as a mate finances fighters in northern California so I don't want to wage a campaign against a guy because nothing will ever come out anyway. I just hope Ward lets his natural ability do the talking and if he gets beat then he gets beat. Am sure God will still look kindly on him.

 

Seems like you have the inside track mate.

Yeh certainly Wards strict religious beliefs, which unlike most fighters appear to be quite genuine, should indicate him as being a clean & honest athlete. But most Christians, and most people in general, are massive hypocrites, so anything is possible.

I think PED's have less of an impact in Boxing than in other sports to be honest. Boxers always tell you it's 90% mental, and I would personally say taking steroids would give away some of that mental edge. So maybe they can work both ways.

Oh by the way I stumbled across a craft beer place in Culver City last night.

 

When you see Ward in the ring he's one of the most ruthless f*ckers you'll ever come across - ask Kessler's eye! That extends to all aspects of his training. But also the sport doesn't need fighters being accused of stuff because it drags it down so I'm not gonna go on about Conte. But it's why Mayweather's stand on Olympic style testing is one of the most important made by a big time fighter in recent times. Mayweather fights under the far stricter Nevada State Atheltic Commission where he earns his bug bucks and where Ward is yet to tread.

So it was quite comical seeing Ward calling Maywether out at 160 the other week as he would never bow to Mayweather's testing regime. Ward will have to venture out sooner or later though. Fighting at home has a different meaning to what it does here. Once you're a star in the States you're expected to hit Vegas and NY. It's still home in a national sense but not a hometown sense. Ward is a p4p top 3 but hasn't fought in a major fight city yet other than mid level New Jersey where the weird injury cropped up.

Craft beer in London took it out of my wallet on the weekend is all I know right now!

 

Mayweathers stand is a load of bull****. Its just a way to give himself more of an advantage in fights. He knows how to beat the tests, and he knows even if he tests positive, Nevada will keep it under wraps because he brings so much cash to the city of Las Vegas.

 

Marquez was clearly on the gear for the 3rd and 4th fights.

I think the negotiations around drug testing in most cases revolve around what will be tested for rather than the actual testing itself, in all honesty.

He looked like (and was) an absolute ****ing beast, despite being the wrong side of his physical prime.

I don't think the gear did him much good mind, despite toying with Manny in the 3rd fight he was noticeably slower moving around the ring.... and in the 4th fight was being lit up before the right hand landed and put Pac into Disneyland.

The Conte documentary on YT just says it all. The testers are about as effective as the people who try to build un-chippable Playstations.... and everyone out there knows it.

Looking purely at Olympic sprint events, how many of those aren't on the gear?

 

Mayweather was concerned about Pac because of what was going on there. If Pac was a baseball player he would've needed a greater number of helmets than even Barry Bonds asked for. If that has positive ramifications for the sport as a whole then so be it. Unless you know for sure that somebody is juicing you shouldn't make accusations. Do you know that Mayweather is juicing for sure?

Because what you just said sounds like you do.

Yeah they're always one step ahead. We just have to take Conte's word that he is now a reformed character!

 

Hmm yeah, like you say....

Reformed my arse!

He's like Derek Chisora, cashing in on his notoriety.

In fairness to him though, at least he's not denying what he did. There was a demand for his services from sportsmen & women and he provided it.

 

Sorry doesn't your opinion on Andre Ward was formed from hearing rumors from a friend who works in the area where Ward lives and trains? Do you know that Andre Ward juices for sure? Have you seen needles in his arm?

Theres been a ton of reports about Mayweather using PED's that have largley been swept under the carpet. The reason why he is so high on using USADA testing is because he knows how to beat this tests and if he does fail they don't go public with it.

I also lived in Vegas for 4 months and heard plenty of things. Similar stuff to what I have heard about boxers in the UK by the way.

http://voices.yahoo.com/floyd-mayweather-jr-accused-failing-several-11872000.html

 

When did I say my information was based on rumours? I don't base things as serious as that on reading stuff on the internet and tweeting people.

 

Its a great source but you still don't have definitive proof of anything.

Theres plenty of detailed reports. Theres allot of BS on the internet but that doesn't mean every article is some nerd in his living room writing up bull****. Genuine investigation journalism has research Mayweathers relationship with the USADA and found this information.