From Ring mag website: 10 greatest British fighters of all time

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ishy, Dec 23, 2008.


  1. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Tszyu was past his best and had a long layoff, so from that point of view there's always a target for people to criticise....I think the actual W was more impressive than the performance that night, Ricky's will to win was untrue that night and even though it was scrappy he deserves all the credit in the world for getting the W

    My broader point was that the biggest wins for LL,RH and JC can all be scrutinised so therefore looking at their next best victories should be taken into strong consideration
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Hopkins = past peak (Calzaghe = prime, near enough)
    Jones = shot to bits (Calzaghe = slightly past peak)
    Tszyu = slightly past peak (Hatton = peak)
    Castillo = shot (Hatton = near enough peak)
    Holyfield = slightly past peak (Lewis = peak)
    Tyson = shot to bits (Lewis = past peak)
     
  3. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you think Calzaghe should be ranked so high above Lewis, GazOC, do you think he should be no4 - if not why not?
     
  4. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    OK

    I'll group Hopkins/Tszyu/Holyfield as the best wins against the bigger names

    Who then has the better group of victories below that very elite level??
     
  5. HOF

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    That isn't such a bad list by Golden Boy Magazine's standards to be fair
     
  6. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I personally don't think Calzaghe can lick Lewis's boots, not can Hatton.

    Look at their records, and the records of the fighters they faced - especially what they did subsequently.

    The Hopkins Pavlik thing will crop up, but did Calzaghe really beat Hopkins?
     
  7. mrplow182

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    So then it goes down to Golota, Malignaggi and Kessler

    Or even Bruno, Tackie , Lacy

    Gets tricky to rank them
     
  8. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Lewis does. By a country mile.
     
  9. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    You could say did Hatton beat Urango(I meant Collazo, I'm a twat I know......) when he stepped up in weight....that was a ridiculously risky fight to take, also did Lennox deserve to beat Ray Mercer???
     
  10. mrplow182

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    I agree I'm just posing the question its quite interesting ranking levels of opponents faced as depth is always important in a CV
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

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    I think Malignaggi is about #4/5 on Hatton's win list, I don't rate him really.

    Tackie would be similar, #4/5.

    Bruno would be about #7/8 on Lewis's list, Golota perhaps slightly higher, but either of his wins over Holyfield or Ruddock, Rahman II, Grant etc........ would go above that.

    Kessler is clearly Joe's 2nd best win, if you count Hopkins.
     
  12. Beatboxer

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    Bout sums that nonsense he came away with up.

    Very poor list, though Wilde being top with Fitzsimmons exempted is fair enough.

    Lewis is wayyyyy too low.

    Just horrible all round really.
     
  13. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    How do you rank the Hitmans wins then???

    I liked his Magee and Thaxton victories but were they ever world class??

    By the way I meant Collazo earlier......my apologies
     
  14. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Tua>>>Lacy
    Vitali>=Kessler
    Tyson>>>>Roy Jones JR
    Holyfield>>>Hopkins

    They're Calzaghe's 4 best wins. Lewis has 4 surprisingly very similar wins in terms of style/status, but all better imo.

    Lewis then has Mason, Briggs, Golota, Rahman, McCall, Grant, Mercer, Morrison, Bruno, Ruddock...........and Calzaghe doesn't have much.
     
  15. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    It is a flimsy list......it also practically contradicts itself with Calzaghe at 4 not having meaningful fights and having lennox so low despite being our greatest heavyweight ever.....

    surely by their logic they must know its all over the shop