from the man's own mouth: Why Pac didn't accept blood tests 14 days from the fight

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  1. bigdog2001

    bigdog2001 Guest

    he is taking this most def which there is not a test for yet. hgh cannot be detectable in urine bro. Stop kidding yourself please. Stop being a fan and be rational. Hgh urine exams have big flaws that is why they are not used.
    Halo, you can take a masker a few minutes before the test to mask the urine.

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    It's funny how he is so scared of people taking his blood but he offered to give 3 test but wanted to know when the test where. NOT RANDOM!!!! even the urine test he did not want random!!! What a ****ing hypocrite!!! and idiots like you swallow all of it!!!
     
  2. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    Damn philla did you just get owned????:D
     
  3. zangetsu

    zangetsu Getsuga Tenshou Full Member

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    I think its purely psychological.

    Some people are ok with flying, some don't.

    Some people are afraid of spiders, some don't.

    Pac seems to have psychological stress if anything unusual happens during the last weeks of training. Says he doesn't feel 100% and Roach doesn't want it.
     
  4. Theyre just hyping the super fight with propaganda and delays.

    No fighter would worry about losing thier 0 for that amount of money, just doesnt make any sense.

    Put up another drawcard before hand and guarentee 2 pay days = a good way to make a lot of money.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    In other words, nothing new.

    He will never fight FM, he knows that he cant beat him, he prefers slow ass fighters that cant avoid his flurries.... thats why I dont regard him as the best right now, his opponents are selected in order for him to thrive on stylewise.... he & his team dont want none of FM after watching the FM-JMM fight... a blind man can see this.

    Ps. this guy has got to be the king of excuses, from socks to weight loss to blood tests :rofl
     
  6. u13

    u13 Member Full Member

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    This is laughable, did he actually say this or is this how you interpreted it?
     
  7. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Floyd jr is well known as a ducker...FACT!!!
    Floyd Sr doesnt want Jr to fight pac...FACT!!!
    Pac gave counter offer cut-off 24 days and after fight blood test and unlimited urine test, floyd did not accept..FACT!!!
    If Pac is easy fight for floyd, then why ask for random blood test, doesnt make sense...FACT!!!
    If they just followed NSAC rules then, we would already have a fight..FACT!!!

    Floyd pussied out!!! Deal with it!!!:deal:deal:deal

    And oh, sorry to tell you, pac's the best fighter..:deal:deal:deal

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202053
     
  8. Super_Fly_Sam

    Super_Fly_Sam Aus Boxer Full Member

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    lol
     
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