from the man's own mouth: Why Pac didn't accept blood tests 14 days from the fight

If he hadn't been filmed giving blood against Hatton on 24/7 I doubt he would have even offered the 24 day cut off, in my opinion anyway.

The 14 days seemed like a legitimate attempt by Mayweather's camp for both fighters to still save face and meet in the middle of what both wanted/offered, the fact that Pac's camp still refused and went off negotiating with Clottey while Mayweather's team were trying to save the fight makes it look like Pac wasn't that kenn on taking the fight in the first place.

 

Where did I say the 24 days wasn't legitimate?:huh

I said the reason it was offered is because Pac was filmed having blood taken in the build up to the Hatton fight, which turned out to be 24 days out.

Pac could hardly turn around and say he couldn't give blood that close to a fight after he'd already been filmed doing it previously.

 

no not all that..just excuse after excuse...I GIVE MANNY CREDIT..HE THE BEST IN THE WORLD...THATS WHERE IT STOPS THOUGH....JUST CUZ I AM A FLOYD FAN DON'T MEAN I HATE MANNY...I JUST THINK THAT NOT TAKING A DRUG TEST IS STUPID WHEN ITS 4 MINUTES OF UR LIFE..14 DAYS WAS WELL ENOUGH...I BLAME FLOYD AS WELL..DONT GET IT TWISTED..MANNY IS JUST MORE AT FAULT:good

 

Roach said the same thing. He losses two days of heavy training. He doesnt know how much blood they take and to him it doesnt matter, hes not the one giving blood. I guess he means any amount of blood taken will affect him for two days. Then at the end he says he gave FMJ 14 days!

Roach also said that before the Morales fight manny gave two vials of blood. Then gave the comparison of whether or not having sex before a fight affects a fighter. He said some do, some dont. But that medically it lowers your testasterone for about 24hrs.

I think its viable.

The only thing that bothers me is that Roach keeps saying theyve never had testing problems in the past. Neither did Mosley... he lied publicly, then admitted to a grand jury that he did use.

 

:rofl

 

Roach first said...

"If they give me a 5-day window or something like that I have no problem with it," Roach said. "When they've drawn blood from Manny in the past he feels weaker for three or four days. It may be mental, but it's there."

 

Ok. So now its two days weak and another 9 days away from the fight. Lying possible. Depending on when Roach said this he any manny may have not gotten together to talk about a cutoff date is possible too. Also, if hes giving the blood after the fight anyways, why does it matter?

 

Roach says FMJ would outbox Mosley. But if Mosley wins that Pac will fight Mosley.

 

It tapers down to allow the boxer's body to heal. The idea is that the boxer peaks the day of the fight. When he peaks, it's when it's at the perfect balance of rest and performance. Every torn muscle fiber is healed, every bruise and ache from the prior training is gone, he's fully rested, and yet he's not so rested that his metabolism starts slowing down, he starts losing his sharpness, and he starts to lose tone. There's a very small window there - only a few days, and training camps are timed so that the fight takes place within that window.

There should be absolutely no heavy training 14 days out. At around the 12-14 day mark, your bodybuilding/conditioning stuff should come to an end, and you just stick with cardio, some sparring and sharpness drills.

 

But there's no reason for him to lose two days of heavy training in giving a teaspoon of blood. For PED testing, you actually give far less blood than for blood donation, or for physical exams, where multiple blood samples are used to test for a variety of conditions. With PED blood testing, the same sample is used to test for everything, which is why only a teaspoon is needed. There is absolutely no credibility to the argument that Manny would lose two days of training for giving such a small amount of blood.

Compare it to the world class olympic athletes who get blood taken the day of competition, and go out and set records.

 

:bbb

 

Roach is saying its different for each person
Mannys still giving blood after the fight. Isnt that sufficiant enough?

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ok.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=share

This was posted awhile back. I think this says it all. Or is it just me?

 

People use steroids in cycles, therefore his test will comeback negative for PED's after the fight. After the fight is also not random and if you know when you are taking the test you can beat it. All Boxers take a test after the fight cause thats the norm and they know it. Its just a Damn shame a world class athelete is using this as an excuse.

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amatuer azz excuse of a reason. The fact that we are on here arguing over how many days a test should be taken is down right shame. Can you imagine Tommy Hearns,Ray Leonard, Hagler, Tyson, Ali, Jones Jr and manny other Greats giving such a lame azz excuse to not fight? Hell naw it would have never happened.