From Unbeaten Beasts to Broken Men. Fighters Who Really were never the same again???

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Mandanda, Feb 20, 2010.


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  1. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If we're specifically talking about fighters losing their '0' and not looking the same since, I'd nominate Juan Diaz as a recent one and also Pavlik. People thought Pavlik was an utter beast.
     
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  2. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Enzo Maccarenelli
     
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  3. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    enzo after haye fight
     
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  4. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a blast from the past...Didn't he have a barn burner with Ross Hale...:think

    I used to love his entrance to the Ring...:good Did he fight out of the Peacock Gym...:think
     
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  5. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    In a cloth cap and to "Any old iron"!!
     
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  6. One Round

    One Round Hertfordshire's Finest Full Member

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    I was referring to Hatton after the Mayweather defeat. He didn't seem to be able to take a punch like he used to. Lascano buzzed him pretty badly, Paulie couldn't punch through a wet paper bag so didn't really test him, Pacquaio ktfo.
     
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  7. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Kessler could be on this list soon. Wouldn't exactly say broken but he's never got back the same ring presence and domination he had over lesser opponents since the Calzaghe loss. Perdomo and Sartisan were the types he was decimating prior to that yet both had moments of success. That little tiny doubt in the back of the mind just takes the edge off some fighters.
     
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  8. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Edit: Doh!
     
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  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Tony Canzoneri after fighting Jimmy McLarnin
     
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  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Ah sorry! Time will tell but I think theres every chance that the mayweather fight will be the one thats looked back on as affecting Hattons punch resistance.

    To play devils advocate, Lascano was a very decent puncher at 135 and Pac did catch Hatton with some hard shots before he got flattened by a punch I doubt he even saw coming.
     
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  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Some people seem to be having trouble grasping the concept of a "first loss"...;)
     
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  12. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Yep so far there ain't one i disagree with. I think TFFP you hit nail on head...they lose that edge. Things these fighters used to do they now are wary of doing and lose there belief and effectiveness. It doesn't stop them being great fighters but they never look as good and for me it's sad...some of these guys if they could handle defeat the way some other fighters dealt with it could of been even better.

    Scrap Iron was a legend i remember those days....remember Geoff McCreesh sparking him.


    Videos showing why and how these fighters weren't the same again would be good.
     
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  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Camacho although he never lost to El Chapo, was never the same after.

    He went from super-fast handed slickster, to olympic level sprinter.
     
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  14. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cristian Mijares after the beating Vic inflicted on him.


    Jhonny Gonzalez after the Vasquez fight.



    Still to be seen of course, since both are still active (I think). But they looked to have slipped quite a bit after those defeats.

    Davey Moore after Duran (he beat Benitez via ankle injury, but never came good on his early promise).
     
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  15. diagnosismurder

    diagnosismurder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    jermain taylor maybe
     
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