Funeka is why Floyd is scared to fight bigger men...

if 152 iz JMW, which I agree wit u. then what is 149, which Guzman, who got his azz beat Satrday night, weighed?

 

Thats irrelevant, I was talking about Corrales being a tall outboxer people make him out to be, he isnt and he cant be...because he has the reach of a 5'7 man!

PW KO 2 Quintana

Oh god your an idiot. Your lack of boxing knowledge has been exposed a thousand times in different threads in this forum so dont even go there. To show how much more of an idiot your are refer back to my post in page 2:

Now do you feel like a twat?

Your boxing knowledge is limited to the intricate details of Mayweathers balls.

 

Thats why I told you to go watch Corrales vs Casamayor 2 where he outboxed Casa from the outside. Which clearly shows you know nothing about what type of fighter Corrales was. He was much more then a brawler, technically sound and had a great jab when he wanted to use it.

Dont worry, this isnt the first time I've showed you up though. You're just a child and a *******, cant expect you to be knowledgeable in boxing forreal.

And what does that have to do with the fact that a c level Quintana outboxed Williams in the first fight simply by countering? You are telling me Quintana is a better counter puncher then Mayweather. I know you're stupid but not that stupid.

 

There should be no excuses. These are grown men signing on under certain conditions contracts on what was agreed upon. That one fighter did this or that in one division or his opponents were smaller or making excuses that his opponent was too big isn't going to change the outcome. Fighters know their limits on how much weight they can lose and how they'll function the following day. No excuses man.

 

You clearly are an idiot. It doesnt matter he outboxed Casa from the outside. Pac outboxed DLH from the outside, it didnt mean he fought "tall". A man with 5'7" reach cannot fight tall. Its like asking Calderon to fight tall against Funeka.

I have 8 of Corrales fights on DVD you idiot. You show me up? hahaha, dont let me have to dig up old threads of you being utterly owned.

You bring up Quintana, I mentioned PW ko him 2, thats what it has to do with the subject. Are you stupid? fmj may very well outboxed quintana, but he risks getting ktfo everytime he tries to reach in.

 

***_Rand is getting owned again.

 

God you're dumb. Oscar is what 5'11? That is a tall fighter for the welterweight weight class. ****ing Corrales was HUGE for the superfeatherweigtht class. Very few fighters no matter the weight class have a reach like Mayweathers. Arthur Abraham has a 72 inch reach, you saying if Mayweather fought Abraham he wouldnt be fighting the bigger guy? How stupid are you? Corrales had a 3-4 height advantage. Thats huge. **** go watch the fight it looks like Floyds fighting a giant. REach means nothing. Their reach is virtually the same anyway.

Bring those threads up then ******. ITs clear you dont know **** about teh sport, I'd be very interested in seeing where you think you owned me.

Floyd Mayweather has far better defense, far better speed, and far better footwork then Quintana. Williams does not use his height and reach effectively he tries to overwhelm his opponent with activety and brawl on the inside P4P Corrales was a far better boxer. That wont work against a fighter like Mayweather. Im sorry if you cant analyze the hazards in Williams style yet. But thats because you're a clown ******* who couldnt analyze a fight to save your life.

 

The stupidity is out of this world. I said Pac cannot "fight tall" against DLH because he is not taller than DLH. In boxing terms, fighting tall is fighting from the outside using your reach. YES Pac outboxed DLH from the outside...but was that fighting tall? NO! Because he cant "fight tall" against DLH because he doesnt have a longer reach than DLH. Yes Corrales outboxed Casa from the outside, but it isnt "fighting tall" because their reach is virtually the same!

In the case of Corrales-FMJ, how can Corrales "fight tall" against FMJ when he has the shorter reach. Fighting tall means using your reach, staying out of range. When you fight tall, your opponent is within your reach, but you arent within your opponents reach because he has shorter reach. Now you do the maths. If Corrales stood 71" away from Floyd and try to fight tall from there, Floyd can still reach him because Floyd has 72" reach...so how the **** can Corrales "fight tall" against FMJ???

For the record, Abraham wont "fight tall" against FMJ...you wont see him dancing around popping the jab from the outside trying to utilise his reach, he will fight as the "bigger man" and just maul Floyd over.

Get in the ring sometime against an opponent. Its not so much the height, its the reach. Of course, you probably have never fought so what do you know..

I called Calzaghe-Lacy, Taylor-Hopkins, Pac-Cotto/DLH, Haye-Valuev, Hatton-Tsyzu, Mosley-Margarito. I came 2nd in a predictions league here. Im pretty sure I can analyse and break down fights much better than you...if you ever have analysed a fight.

 

Who said anything about Corrales fighting Casa tall you douchebag. I said he outboxed Casa from the outside dumbass. He used a great jab(which you're dumbass said he didnt have) footwork and boxing ability. Something Williams doesnt show on a consistent basis. A C class Quintana, boxed circles around Williams. Now I know you have a small brain, most *******s do but try to follow the plot. :good

Corrales 1 1/2 shorter reach was negated by the fact he was 3-4 inches taller then Floyd dumbass. If you look at the punches Floyd landed on Corrales, they were many times leaping shots allowing Floyd to connect with Corrales becuase of his height. Corrales trying to outbox Mayweahter like dLH trying to outbox Pac would be suicide, regardless of his reach because Mayweather is just too fast, like Pac was too fast. This however has nothing to do with Paul Williams who has great speed but chooses not to utilize it in favor of activety and brawling tactics.

I know your fat punk ass has never got inside the ring. So stop frontin. Im still waiting on your ****** ass to pull up those threads where I was owned by you.

No ******* non-intelligent schmuck like you would ever own me. I remember owning your punkass when you laughably tied to debate Barrera and MArquez vs Corrales and Castillo. You were overmatched then and overmatched now.

 

Its not only about power. The major difference was that Funeka fights at long range. Guzman was forced to move forward all night which is NOT what he likes to do. Floyd is similar also. Often Guzman would back himself against the ropes, and Funeka instead of getting close and throwing power puches, he would set himself behind the jab 2-3 feet away from Guzman and do his thing.

The style matchup favored Funeka in this one

 

I realize that there are a lot of numbers that float around out there, but Corrales reach is somewhere between 71" and 73", which is exactly average for a 6' tall man. The tale of the tape for the Mayweather fight has Corrales listed as having a 1 inch reach advantage.

And fighting tall isn't the same as fighting from the outside. Fighting tall means that you keep your chin up and away from the shorter man and make him reach to hit you. As a tall guy you can keep the fight at your middle distance and have less concern about getting hit on the chin because the other guy has to reach way up to catch you.

You also neglect the obvious advantages of being the taller man. It is easier to generate power punching down than punching up due to the mechanics of the shoulder. As the taller man you also have a straighter path to the other guy's head than he does to yours. If you are significantly taller then your shoulders are near head level for the other guy, meaning your punches can travel in a straight line. The shorter guy has to punch up at an angle, meaning that his reach is diminished. So yea, it is entirely possible to fight tall even if you lack a significant reach advantage.

I wonder if you've spent any time inside the ring at all, because you'd be well aware of this if you had done even a modicum of sparring with people of different sizes.

 

I'll say this though. For Funeka being tall he sure has short arms and he can fight inside. I think he is kinda disproportionate that way. I dont think guys shorter than him will give up that much.

 

This little debate is interesting but gettin boring now yeah but just fort i would say that only small minded boxing fans would call Carlos Quintana C Class!

 

1. Great fact
2. Great point
3. He hasnt

One word "*******"

 

atsch Yeah, sorry about that. Quintana is a solid B class fighter. But still exposed Williams deficiencies.