*** Funny/Stupid things in boxing that I disagree with ***

p4p is all a matter of personal opinion which is you hardly ever get 2 p4p lists the same.

 

3- Undisputed Champion.
I have to admit that just the sound of it makes me feel that I want to be one of them.

I quit reading after this, but believe me, I will finish reading your post. This is one of my favorite comments ever. Well Done

 

it is what it is,seen as its mythical some people do take it far too seriously.

 

P4P is a laughable system. Used by ignorant fools to hype or downgrade fighters to suit there agenda.

 

Hey thinman i think you disagree with these 3 things mainly because you don't really understand them.

1- The p4p ranking is just a measure of trying to determine who are the best fighters out there. Its not about a ranking as in if you beat the guy, you take his ranking. Sometimes the better fighter loses or sometimes a fighter on one night is not as good as he was 3 months ago, and sometimes he had just overachieved and was overrated.

Like I said, you should simply view the p4p ranking as a matter of determining who the best boxers in the world are.

Example, if Cotto was considered the 4th best boxer in the world and then loses to MArgarito, who was say considered the 20th best boxer in the world. does that Make Margarito 4th and Cotto 20th? Of course not. There are intangibles such as style matchups, off nights, quality of the training camp, and many others. Its a grey zone. People who view things as black or white will never understand the p4p rankings.

2- The linear championship is something that is specific to boxing in the sense that once someone is champion, the way to become champion is by beating him. Its not like in other sports where for example the Superbowl champion of 2009 can become champion without ever beating the superbowl champion of 2008. Therefore the linear champion is the guy who became champion not by beating just anyone but by actually beating the guy who was champion before him.

3- Undisputed champion is just as important because in boxing often noone agrees on who is the real champion of a division. When someone is undisputed champion, you have a situation where you have an overwhelming consensus that a specific fighter in a division is the champ.

The best example I can give you in regard to undisputed and linear champions is the middleweight division. Bernard Hopkins became undisputed champion when he beat Tito. Noone in the boxing world was disputing the fact that Hopkins was the one and only champion. Who else could they have said was champion at MW? noone.
When Taylor beat Hopkins, he was the linear and undisputed champion. He became champ by baeting the champ and there was also noone else in the division that had a legitimate claim to the crown.
Then when Pavlik beats Taylor he is once again linear and undisputed champion, but now as Abraham is becoming more and more of a force in the middleweight division and has established himself as a threat to Pavlik in that division, Pavlik's claim as undisputed champion at MW is starting to thin. If Pavlik goes on 2 or 3 years and never beats Abraham, some people will start to claim that Abraham is the legit champ at 160, and Pavlik's status as the one and only champion will be disputed, though his status as the linear champion can never be disputed until loses or until another undisputed champion arrives.

I hope i helped you appreciate these 3 facets of boxing that imo are very important.

 

its not a surprise that p4p lists are hardly ever the same as there are so many boxers in so many divisions with so little fights going on that its NORMAL that people will have different opinions as to which boxers are better than which.

 

EXACTLY..Well said:good

 

Regarding P4P list
Here is a funny one...
My 14 year old daughter saw me on this sight...and saw a P4P list.....she said..."Dad, thats easy to figure out. Who weighs the most?"


P4p list is a joke. Its a list so fans can debate over and over

 

The linear champion is a quite important title to me (more important then the WBO belt). The problem is, if people or the ring magazine create their own linear champions, like Roy Jones was made.

The real linear LHW Champion was Dariusz Michaltszewski, after his win over virgil hill. So the real linear LHW Champ is Zsolt Erdei, not Joe Calzaghe.

 

Using that argument isn't exactly helping the case for linear champion being credible. Erdei is about as protected as they come and hasn't done **** to prove he's a top LHW.