Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Jan 16, 2023.
Shame on you man for making such a lame thread. I want my two minutes back please.
lordlosh your bodybuilder has been dealt with why are you still here?
Yeah, it's mad when a guy jumps the shark and although it's entirely apparent to everyone else, he can't see it himself.
Getting dangerously close to a Trash Recipticle thread.
There is a offer from the Saudi, that Usyk accepted, but team Fury are greedy and wants more money. Saudi have said that they are willing to host the fight, and they also said the fight needs to be 50-50. Fury team doesn't want it it.
Clear as day, the biggest duck in the history of this sport.
Even against Chisora, Fury needed to cheat and constantly hold. Clinching is one thing, but holding is completely forbidden and it's a clear cheating, and the Fat Gypsy should be penalized for it. Excessive clinching is also against the rules.
Fury and his team wants to host the fight in UK, so they can bribe all the judges and the referee, so they can get away with a murder.
He already ducked AJ twice, ducked Klitschko rematch, ducked Ustinov, proven cheat with a ban for banned substance, and it's a known cheater in the ring as well. He should have been DQ against Cunningham as well.
Everyone can now see him for what he truly is.
Nice try Fury fangirl. Didn't expect much from you, but you should at least give it a try. But you can't, cause all the facts are pretty clear.
Fury is being expose once and for all !!!
Not intending to argue, we can play with statistics, but currently the net income of Fury seems higher than Usyk's. Just for the fact, nothing else.
Let me quote this post:
"I posted 5 months ago that Fury was ducking Usyk and was heavily downvoted. Are people ready to reconsider?
I don't think anyone can defend Fury's actions now. It's safe to say that I was right all those months ago.
Let's clarify one thing because many boxing fans just ate up Fury's narrative: the reason for the bout not happening in December was never because of Usyk's injury. A December date was never agreed on, and a fight date was never announced. A few weeks ago, Alex Krassyuk, Usyk's manager cleared things up once again about what happened.
Early last year (after Fury ducked Usyk for the first time when, after months of planning for an undisputed fight, he suddenly demanded to fight against Whyte instead of Usyk even though WBC never ordered him to defend his belt and even if they had been ordered him, an undisputed fight always overrules any mandatories), Team Fury and Team Usyk agreed on the following timeline: Usyk-Joshua rematch, followed by a five-month break, then Usyk-Fury bout.
Since the Usyk-Joshua rematch was pushed back a month and it took place in August instead of mid-July, the whole timeline had to be pushed back by a month. Meaning: as soon as the Usyk-Joshua bout did not take place in July, a December fight was never going to happen as per the pre-agreed five-month break.
If you don't believe that, just look it up how Bob Arum, Fury's own promoted confirmed on 28th August how the Usyk-Fury was targeted for February - this was days before the 2nd of September when Usyk held that press conference where he talked about his injury. Meaning, Usyk mentioned his injury as one of the things he had to deal with in the break that was planned anyway. The injury was not a cause for the delay - the delay would have happened anyway as per the agreement.
And since January is the worst month to have a huge event like that organised (sales are poor because people are skint after the holidays), it had to be February. That's why Arum confirmed it and then Frank Warren confirmed this too in early September.
Fury never said a thing until this point, and only jumped on Usyk's press conference later, claiming how Usyk was "not even injured" and was just "running". That's the narrative most gullible fans have been parroting ever since, even though Fury knew exactly that as per their agreement, as soon as the Usyk-Joshua rematch was shifted to August, that automatically meant the Usyk-Fury bout couldn't possibly be any sooner than February.
With that out of the way, I think there could be no doubt by now that Fury has been ducking Usyk.
How can anyone say it's not the case when:
The negotiations have been going on for six months now - just for perspective even the Treaty of Versailles, the peace treaty after WWI that determined how the world would move forward after the greatest and most complex and most devastating international armed conflict up to that point, was signed in some seven months. There are no financial or legal details of a boxing match that can not be sorted out in six months. None.
Even though Fury knew about the pre-agreed five months break, he claimed Usyk ducked him and fought a voluntary title defence against an almost 40-year-old, 12-losses Chisora who wasn't even ranked in the WBC top 10. The idea of him fighting Chisora was so absurd that even Fury fans instantly thought he was just joking - until they realised that he wasn't and started to claim how it was a legit stay busy/tune-up fight - once again, parroting Fury's narrative. Why would Fury need to stay busy when he keeps saying Usyk is just a middleweight? And in what world would a slow, old, flat-footed plodder like Chisora be an ideal tune-up for a slick, fast, quick, agile and mobile Usyk?
Fury fought Chisora with a pre-existing and known hand injury. Why would someone who has an undisputed fight scheduled do that? Why would you risk making the injury worse hence jeopardising the undisputed bout, instead of skipping that shameful cash-grabbing bout against Chisora and getting your hand fixed in the few weeks before the rumoured February undisputed bout? It's very suspicious that Fury just made a calculated business decision that would have been the ideal excuse for the duck: a zero-risk cash grab against an old has-been whom he'd already beat twice in 10+ years ago, with the chance of his hand injury becoming worse hence he can pull out of the Usyk fight without losing face.
Usyk has already signed and agreed to all terms with the Saudis. He is ready and eager to go. Why hasn't Fury signed yet? What takes so long? There are simply no financial or legal details for a boxing match that can't be worked out in six months.
Fury and his father has been talking about Ngannou as the "more dangerous fight". It sounds very much like they are doing the groundwork for selling casuals/Fury fanatics the idea that he goes after the "more dangerous fight" instead of facing "the middleweight". While in reality, Ngannou is obviously close to zero threat - he is not a boxer. Fury fighting him would be just another gimmick and an even more ridiculous one than the "Chisora trilogy" (even though we all thought that was the low point).
Fury has just priced himself out with the Saudis. Some Fury fans tried to argue that Fury is just hustling for the biggest prize money. I don't know what amount of delusion is needed for such mental gymnastics. Right now, the money for boxers is in Saudi Arabia. There's no other place on Earth where you can get such huge deals. Not in the US (where Fury is still not allowed anyway) and certainly not in the UK. If Fury is interested in money (and we all know he is all about the money #halfabilly), why on Earth would he price himself out with the very people who can get him the most money in boxing today?
It is a long post but it was necessary to present the full picture. I don't think anyone can genuinely defend Fury's actions anymore and in these past few months made it undeniably clear that he has been ducking Usyk all along. Remember how Fury demanded Joshua to sign the contract in a matter of days, and how he said that if both fighters want a fight, then the deal is quickly done? Well, Usyk already made a deal with the Saudis and was happy to sign.
At this point, only Fury fanboys can defend his actions and claim he doesn't duck Usyk."
Fury is proven cheat and a ducker.
There is a great offer from the Saudi, and Fury is just not signing it. Usyk sign the contract, Fury not, so it's clear as day who is ducking the fight.
Share it, please, I'm serious.
Cool story bro
Funny how Fury fangirls can't use a single arguments on where i'm wrong. But they can't, cause everything is in the net.
Fury's own promoter stated that the 50-50 is the fair split, and the fight should happen in February/March.
Fury's own promoter stated that this is easy to make fight.
So it's crystal clear as day who is DUCKING the fight, and who is once again being EXPOSED!
I don't need anyone to take my words.
This is Fury and his promoters own words.
They are exposing themselves.
World class surgeons who save lives should make more than athletes, but they don't draw money.
You get paid in boxing for what you draw, not your accomplishments. Fury is far ahead of Usyk in that department. Casuals barely know who Usyk is.
Even Dereck Chisora is saying that Fury is ducking Usyk. Fury's own friend is saying he is ducking Usyk.
What is Fury fangirls have to say now ?
Another report that Fury is pricing himself out of the fight. Again Usyk sign the Saudi offer, it's Fury who priced himself out of the fight, and Fury team then claims they are looking at Wembley, but the money in the UK is A LOT LESS, than the money being offered by Saudi, which makes no sense to make the fight at Wembley at all !!!
Even John Fury expose his son:
Shows us the number, or be quiet casual.
The Saudi offer was worth the same as Fury can make in the UK. Why would he add more middlemen and fight abroad unless it's for more money?
Saudi money has to be ridiculous and they know that...thing is they need billion dollar new built venues and locations to promote to offer it.