Fury and Arum Holding Up Fury-Usyk, They Don't Think Usyk Deserves 50%

Yeh I assumed so as vid was posted yesterday. Thanks for the post dude, very informative.
The deadline has me shocked really, and especially if the sticking point is the split. I'm hoping Krassyuk is bluffing and only holding out as long a possible before caving in. But we'll see.
If the split is anything more than 40%, Usyk should take it late next week IMO.

 

Usyk's not negotiating though. He's sticking on 50% and has set a deadline for Saturday.

 

Team Usyk are feeding Furys camp some of their own tactics...

 

The result of a poll on an AJ fan forum means nothing. Facts are facts and Krussyuk said it himself, Fury is the big tickets seller.
And I remember Usyk saying it wasnt about the money too. Liars the both of them, clearly.

If Usyk doesnt fold this week, he'll be back with cup in hand later in the year.

 

I Agree. I'm still keeping my hopes up that something comes up this week and it gets over the line.

 

Who is Fury having step in for April 29th?

Can't wait another week for the midget. Fury not fighting this summer is a career ender for him...he can't be inactive.

 

My bet its snickers boy.

Usyk may earn a couple of mil going through hell with Wilder.

 

Fury will show AJ how you deal with Ruiz properly. That sells out Wembley easy. Probably reason why Wilder is over in Saudi he messed up his relationship with Fury and now has nobody to fight.

 

"The 34-year-old Brit can now command a bigger split of a smaller purse - of a Wembley showdown that is targeted for April 29 as the local fighter attracting most of the crowd."
([url]Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk at risk of collapsing with three opponents in line to fight Gypsy King | The Sun[/url])

If the Saudis offered 50:50 split, but 60:40 at Wembley brings more money to Fury, it means the Saudis' offer wasn't really that great. Anyway, one holding the fight is also Usyk, Krassyuk stated it clearly and honestly in the interview I posted on the previous page, saying he agrees Tyson brings more interest to the fight, but they want 50:50 because it's on his own soil. True, but where else this fight could take place? USA is not an option, because of Fury being banned there, so... Germany? They still don't mention 50:50 split and like 60:40 from the PPVs and tickets for that same reason, so mainly blaming Fury is legit, but Usyk is to blame to some degree as well, he agreed on lesser money than Chisora in their fight.

 

He's not though is he?

He's a boxing great, who has achieved more (in boxing terms) than Fury has at this point in their careers.

A superstar is something very different though. Tyson Fury is the international superstar, not many people anywhere in the world would ask who he is if they saw him or heard his name. The same can't be said for Usyk.

Obviously the boxing community is a different thing. But it isn't the boxing community who generate the majority of the income for such fights.

 

It's common knowledge that the money in boxing is in Saudi today. The UK is only the third best option - even the US is better but Fury is not allowed to enter that country because of his criminal associations. There's a reason the UK was never the target country. Sure, Fury will sell 90k seats at Wembley... so? That's peanuts, that's not where the money comes from. That comes from PPV which would have been just the cherry on top of what both fighters would have netted with their respective deals done with the Saudi organisers.

So basically, instead of two major income streams (respective deals for the fighters that are biggest in boxing today + the PPV sales), Fury's idiocy forces them to the UK where they will only have only one income stream (PPV sales) to split between the two of them and it is somehow supposed to not only make sense but be a better deal? You can't be serious, mate.

 

Seems you don't get it: I am saying it is weird if 60:40 in UK is better offer than 50:50 in Saudi Arabia. Remember, most of the people say it's Fury who's the greedy one (I don't comment if he is or not). So how a greedy man agrees on lower total income event? Or truly the Saudi's deal was really poor compared to what they usually give - I doubt, but I don't exclude it. We know exactly nothing about those negotiations.

 

But it has nothing to do with money. Queensberry knows they were offered the best possible amount there is to take for this fight. Fury simply doesn't want to face Usyk. No matter what Usyk does or says, Fury will not face him. He already ducked him last year to fight Whyte instead. Fury wants to get out of this one without fighting Usyk, and he wants to do it in a way so he can spin the narrative for his gullible stans that it was Usyk who bottled it. That's why he simply couldn't say "screw you, I'm not taking this fight". His public image is a vital element for his brand which equals his market value. So he priced himself out with the Saudis, and he keeps messing around with the date and the split - the is on his side because not only is Usyk older but Fury has just "defended" his title against Chisora (lol) so WBC will not order him to defend his title for at least another year or so. It was all calculated by Fury, just to avoid the toughest challenge of his professional fight, without losing face. He wants to get to the Ngannou-type shenanigans, but in order to do that with his brand intact, he has to duck Usyk in a way that he can try to somehow put the blame on Usyk.

This is not just a mere theory - we have the track records of both fighters. It's like case law if you will.

Usyk, before this whole saga started:
- always signed quickly and easily - multiple sources confirmed this
- money or other details were never an issue with him - multiple sources confirmed this
- there were never public callouts from Team Usyk, stating the opponent is ducking them
- he signed with the Saudis weeks ago and was ready to go

Fury, before this whole saga started:
- has a long history of messing about contracts
- has a long history of ducking fighters from Ustinov to Price to still unbeaten Whyte and still unbeaten Joshua as well as Usyk last year
- has a long history of making contradictory statements hence confusing promoters and fellow fighters
- has a long history of talking shite about other fighters and their teams along with his family members

And now, for the first time in Usyk's career, there are delays, there is controversy, there is unclear and unconfirmed information about the venue, the date, the money, the reasons for the delay etc. Do you think it's a coincidence that Usyk, who is 36 and has been a professional for a decade, gets involved in a mess like that for the first time ever when the other party is Fury?

 

I don't think Fury would sign even if Usyk accepted 40%. At the very least, 2023 will be interesting as a Brit to see whether Fury's popularity tanks or keeps going. I've got to laugh at the irony if AJ resurrects his career in a bizarre parody of Fury doing so in 2018. Truly, history is a circle