Fury and Arum Holding Up Fury-Usyk, They Don't Think Usyk Deserves 50%

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Jan 16, 2023.


Should Usyk Receive 50%?

Poll closed Oct 11, 2025.
  1. Yes of course, he's already a legend and has 4 world titles

    75.6%
  2. No, Arum is right, he doesn't deserve 50%, he should accept less

    24.4%
  1. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Uysks not the draw dude, ask Krassyuk. But you'll see when he comes back to Fury for more, either personally or via the Saudis. (Book)Mark my words.

    Enjoy watching the Franklin fight :)
     
  2. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don’t mind him. He is the Lordlosh 2.0 of this forum. Angry man who hates Fury above all else.
     
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  3. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Oh, I'd never noticed. Cheers.
     
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  4. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Now kiss.
     
  5. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Woke thing for you to say
     
  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well to fair to Arum … he is after all Ukrainian.
    The Market does set the price.
    Can’t blame him for low balling him he is in fact a promoter- it’s what they do.
     
  7. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Lucky me - if you had called me snowflake I'd be on suicide watch by now.
     
  8. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough. I’ll remember you are the sensitive type.
     
  9. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    I always try my very best not to cry while watching romance movies like Luke.
     
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  10. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are doing a great job!
     
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  11. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Krassyuk didn't say that. You are putting way too much into one sentence fragment of a guy whose third language is English.

    It was an hour long interview. Fury "is the big ticket seller" was in the context of Wembley in comparison to Usyk. Nothing more. And nothing to do with PPV.

    There is literally no way to avoid that Usyk does better PPV numbers in the UK against different opponents than Fury ever did. Arguing against that means calling anything that disagrees with your position to be false. At which point any reasonable discussion ends.

    You repeat why not offer Germany, but that doesn't mean much when it's Fury who declined Saudi, and it's Fury who cannot enter the US (Vegas) which are the two places which can bring in more money than Wembley.

    No one is arguing that Usyk is A-side. They are arguing that neither is Fury in the context of an undisputed fight. Krassyuk's point (and most people's) is that this is a 50-50 fight, it is a global fight, not a UK fight. Krassyuk's position (and mine too) is that any difference in revenue from Wembley ticket sales that Fury brings in, has to weighed against the sporting advantage he gets from fighting In his home nation in such an important fight. Hence it remains a 50-50 fight as the real money will be made on the back of both Usyk and Fury in Undisputed. Not Fury being "the big ticket seller" in the UK.
     
  12. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Asking for more than 50% in this fight is dishonourable.
     
  13. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Krassyuk DID sat that, in the context I EXACTLY mean. And saying it was becasue of "third language", in an hour long, perfectly spoken interview is a reach when his own context verifies he knew EXACTLY what he was talking about too. Dont twist things.

    No context whatsoever. 30% OFF Chisora, 25% OFF AJ (In the Uk, NOT on home soil), 50% After beating AJ. Theres the context you were missing, I need say no more on the PPV issue, its all there in my posts. Disagree if you like, but I'm not repeating this further.

    The Saudi offer is off the table. Krassyuk (and in repetition myself) are speaking of the 60/40 Wembley offer. I appreciate your trying to fill gaps with the history of whats gone on, but none of that deviates from the facts. Its still 60/40 at Wembley, Krassyuk has a 4th April deadline to receive 50% for his client, or they will walk. This is not my opinion. This is team Usyk current stance.

    Usyks isnt the A-side, thats why nobody is arguing it. Otherwise he would be making offers. As you said, this IS a global fight. But Oleksandrs current offer is Wembley 60/40, not much work globally there from team Usyk. Again, just a fact. The ONLY current offer which Krassyuk is inclined to decline is 40% at Wembley.

    It IS a 50/50 fight in the ring, but again, this is not how it works and hasnt for decades. Its a cute Idea, and I would like it too but we are a long long way from seeing boxers receive "working away from home bonusues". Giving 50% to take home advantage, when the away fighter cant even offer a home advantage site for himself, is stupid buisness. Wlad had no problem building up a European reputation and places to fight in (fact), but Usyk hasnt made any couter offers.

    In summary, theres no point with back and forths, we all know each others opinions, but opinions dont matter as we mean nothing. Factually, Its currently a 60/40 Wembley offer from team Fury, Usyk hasnt made any offers of his own. And Krassyuk has given team Fury until Saturday 4th April to give Usyk 50%. Thats where we are up to. And everyone knows how I feel about it. :)

    Cheers for the discussions though Finkel, both you and Spav. Its always a blast. I'll be happy to come back after Saturday, hopefully we have more information to go off of and maybe some clarity to these murky waters!...
     
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  14. miniq

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    Either it gets announced this week for Saudi which is an extremely short timeline or it's delayed to the end of the year in Saudi.

    Don't see it going to the UK

    Question is what do Fury & Usyk do through the summer? and how do they stop the orgs not stripping Usyk?

    Or maybe even May/June?
     
  15. JOKER

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    Fury duckin' Usyk like Floyd ducked Pacquiao, man.

    :(
     
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