Fury and Arum Holding Up Fury-Usyk, They Don't Think Usyk Deserves 50%

What is this tripe, Chisora paid Usyk 30% you tool. Thats not made up, nothing I've posted is made up other than my own opinions.

If you believe Usyk did 1m ppv buys v Dereck Chisora, Ive got a bridge to sell you, mug. The rest then is moot. 30% Remember.

Moot. 1 million horse dung, 30%. Numbers do lie, and you believe it and repeat it. Another wasted paragraph and a waste of my time. On to the next, I hope this improves.

So why doesnt Usyk make the offers then? If Usyk is such a big draw, he would take Fury to Dusseldorf like Wlad did. K2 hold loads of events in eastern europe. How come 50% at Wembley is bigger than anything else he can make (since he would accept it), than if he offered his own venue and fans? Come on, you know why. Krassyuk, Usyks OWN MANAGER said it himself that Fury is the one who sells the big tickets. You cant ignore that fact, hard you may try.

Like I said, if Usyk the A-side, he needs to put the work in and make the offer. Furys side has, 60/40 Wembley, and the offers still there on the table until Krassyuks Saturday deadline.

His own manager disagrees with you buddy. His own manager.
And as for the fight, I like Usyk, he's been phenomenal. But a big good boxer beats a good boxer, Furys too long, strong and awkard. I dont see Usyk getting inside and really hurting Fury. Maybe he buzzes him(?) But even then, Furys too astute and too clever, even in trouble he can switch it up any which way he wants. Which is a shame for Usyk.
It'll likely be a purists fight, boring to most. But Fury wins easily for me and it wont actually be a suprise in hindsight.

Well, thanks for the entertainment, but that was crap mate, I've had loads better. No hard feelings, all the best.

 

You tool, you mug... How to tell me you are a Fury fan without actually telling me.

Other than that, pure bollocks not even worth replying to. Just one example: taking Fury to Düsseldorf. As if Fury would travel to Germany or anywhere else if he wasn't forced to like he was in 2015. Whenever Fury's hands are not tied, he is ****ing around. All Fury fans know this, your fellow cult member, miniq is even proud of this. Enjoy being the servant of the Gypsy Queen, mate

 

Uysks not the draw dude, ask Krassyuk. But you'll see when he comes back to Fury for more, either personally or via the Saudis. (Book)Mark my words.

Enjoy watching the Franklin fight

 

Don’t mind him. He is the Lordlosh 2.0 of this forum. Angry man who hates Fury above all else.

 

Oh, I'd never noticed. Cheers.

 

Now kiss.

 

Woke thing for you to say

 

Well to fair to Arum … he is after all Ukrainian.
The Market does set the price.
Can’t blame him for low balling him he is in fact a promoter- it’s what they do.

 

Lucky me - if you had called me snowflake I'd be on suicide watch by now.

 

Fair enough. I’ll remember you are the sensitive type.

 

I always try my very best not to cry while watching romance movies like Luke.

 

You are doing a great job!

 

Krassyuk didn't say that. You are putting way too much into one sentence fragment of a guy whose third language is English.

It was an hour long interview. Fury "is the big ticket seller" was in the context of Wembley in comparison to Usyk. Nothing more. And nothing to do with PPV.

There is literally no way to avoid that Usyk does better PPV numbers in the UK against different opponents than Fury ever did. Arguing against that means calling anything that disagrees with your position to be false. At which point any reasonable discussion ends.

You repeat why not offer Germany, but that doesn't mean much when it's Fury who declined Saudi, and it's Fury who cannot enter the US (Vegas) which are the two places which can bring in more money than Wembley.

No one is arguing that Usyk is A-side. They are arguing that neither is Fury in the context of an undisputed fight. Krassyuk's point (and most people's) is that this is a 50-50 fight, it is a global fight, not a UK fight. Krassyuk's position (and mine too) is that any difference in revenue from Wembley ticket sales that Fury brings in, has to weighed against the sporting advantage he gets from fighting In his home nation in such an important fight. Hence it remains a 50-50 fight as the real money will be made on the back of both Usyk and Fury in Undisputed. Not Fury being "the big ticket seller" in the UK.

 

Asking for more than 50% in this fight is dishonourable.

 

Krassyuk DID sat that, in the context I EXACTLY mean. And saying it was becasue of "third language", in an hour long, perfectly spoken interview is a reach when his own context verifies he knew EXACTLY what he was talking about too. Dont twist things.

No context whatsoever. 30% OFF Chisora, 25% OFF AJ (In the Uk, NOT on home soil), 50% After beating AJ. Theres the context you were missing, I need say no more on the PPV issue, its all there in my posts. Disagree if you like, but I'm not repeating this further.

The Saudi offer is off the table. Krassyuk (and in repetition myself) are speaking of the 60/40 Wembley offer. I appreciate your trying to fill gaps with the history of whats gone on, but none of that deviates from the facts. Its still 60/40 at Wembley, Krassyuk has a 4th April deadline to receive 50% for his client, or they will walk. This is not my opinion. This is team Usyk current stance.

Usyks isnt the A-side, thats why nobody is arguing it. Otherwise he would be making offers. As you said, this IS a global fight. But Oleksandrs current offer is Wembley 60/40, not much work globally there from team Usyk. Again, just a fact. The ONLY current offer which Krassyuk is inclined to decline is 40% at Wembley.

It IS a 50/50 fight in the ring, but again, this is not how it works and hasnt for decades. Its a cute Idea, and I would like it too but we are a long long way from seeing boxers receive "working away from home bonusues". Giving 50% to take home advantage, when the away fighter cant even offer a home advantage site for himself, is stupid buisness. Wlad had no problem building up a European reputation and places to fight in (fact), but Usyk hasnt made any couter offers.

In summary, theres no point with back and forths, we all know each others opinions, but opinions dont matter as we mean nothing. Factually, Its currently a 60/40 Wembley offer from team Fury, Usyk hasnt made any offers of his own. And Krassyuk has given team Fury until Saturday 4th April to give Usyk 50%. Thats where we are up to. And everyone knows how I feel about it.

Cheers for the discussions though Finkel, both you and Spav. Its always a blast. I'll be happy to come back after Saturday, hopefully we have more information to go off of and maybe some clarity to these murky waters!...